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Quote: Willzay "Carter’s response here:


I'm not sure why Carter needs to take such a combative approach on this sort of thing. I've said on another thread that he seems completely devoid of empathy, and this is another example of that.

Given what Carter has said in the press previously about how he will deal with dissention in the ranks, I really don't see how saying "we're doing it this way and if anyone has an issue with this, grow a pair and speak to me" is the right approach. You might not be the player who ran to the press but it may be that you agree with the sentiment of the complaint and if you're a player looking at Carter's past remarks, at a time when you're possibly worried about your contract position, you're not going to stick your head above the paraphet in that way. RL players have no shortage of "balls", but they do have a shortage of job and financial security.

This isn't a hidden issue. It's one that's in full view for all to see so it is Carter that should be the one making the first move and offering the olive branch here. He should be the one coming forward and speaking to the senior playing group about their concerns - constructively, and setting out his and Chester's vision - not sitting in his office and waiting for them to come to him with their complaint.

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It’s not exactly rocket science when you look into it...

We lost nine straight after lockdown...

Seven of those were against teams currently sat in the top four.

One was a ‘home’ game against Huddersfield that we ended up playing at theirs and was an even game barring Aidan Sezer who was the clear difference between two struggling sides....the other loss being a tight game against a depleted Hull side but we were depleted too...Hull were favourites to win the game at every bookies in the land....

We didn’t have home advantage in any of those games which for a team like us is a major plus...we had injuries, disruptions and were in a rut and low on confidence....we slowly started getting our star players and match winners back on the field though...game changers like Johnstone and Fifita...our pack leaders and experience in Ashurst and Arona and I’d even add BJB into that.

We’ve then taken on two beatable teams...Huddersfield without them having home advantage and came through to win that, then the first game since lockdown that we’ve been favourites to win...with home advantage...with the majority of our quality players on the field and we’ve put them to the sword...

You could see in the first half the confidence come flooding back...giving the ball some air, offloads, numerous players backing breaks up etc...

That’s how I see it anyway...

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Quote: upthecats "It’s not exactly rocket science when you look into it...

We lost nine straight after lockdown...

Seven of those were against teams currently sat in the top four.

One was a ‘home’ game against Huddersfield that we ended up playing at theirs and was an even game barring Aidan Sezer who was the clear difference between two struggling sides....the other loss being a tight game against a depleted Hull side but we were depleted too...Hull were favourites to win the game at every bookies in the land....

We didn’t have home advantage in any of those games which for a team like us is a major plus...we had injuries, disruptions and were in a rut and low on confidence....we slowly started getting our star players and match winners back on the field though...game changers like Johnstone and Fifita...our pack leaders and experience in Ashurst and Arona and I’d even add BJB into that.

We’ve then taken on two beatable teams...Huddersfield without them having home advantage and came through to win that, then the first game since lockdown that we’ve been favourites to win...with home advantage...with the majority of our quality players on the field and we’ve put them to the sword...

You could see in the first half the confidence come flooding back...giving the ball some air, offloads, numerous players backing breaks up etc...

That’s how I see it anyway...'"


Yeah but you're kind of missing the point......I know for a fact if we had lost yesterday it would have been because of late withdrawals, 2nd game in 4 days etc etc.....they are not reasons, they are excuses!! You talk about previous games, we lost to Hull, Wigan, Saints, we lost because someone knocked on in the 71st minute, threw the ball into touch in the 67th minute, gave a stupid penalty away etc etc, they are actual reasons why we lost those games?! When the players were out there in those games in the heat of battle, no-one is thinking about covid issues etc, they just didn't play well enough to win. Most of the other games were just very poor performances, bordering on unprofessional. Catalans away we were virtually at full strength, hardly any disruption with team changes, same 17 and had 8 days to prepare against a team who were playing their 3rd game in 7 days, and we were abysmal, explain?! Anyway i'm pleased we have performed better and finally given us something to smile about icon_wink.gif

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Quote: upthecats "It’s not exactly rocket science when you look into it...

We lost nine straight after lockdown...

Seven of those were against teams currently sat in the top four.

One was a ‘home’ game against Huddersfield that we ended up playing at theirs and was an even game barring Aidan Sezer who was the clear difference between two struggling sides....the other loss being a tight game against a depleted Hull side but we were depleted too...Hull were favourites to win the game at every bookies in the land....

We didn’t have home advantage in any of those games which for a team like us is a major plus...we had injuries, disruptions and were in a rut and low on confidence....we slowly started getting our star players and match winners back on the field though...game changers like Johnstone and Fifita...our pack leaders and experience in Ashurst and Arona and I’d even add BJB into that.

We’ve then taken on two beatable teams...Huddersfield without them having home advantage and came through to win that, then the first game since lockdown that we’ve been favourites to win...with home advantage...with the majority of our quality players on the field and we’ve put them to the sword...

You could see in the first half the confidence come flooding back...giving the ball some air, offloads, numerous players backing breaks up etc...

That’s how I see it anyway...'"


Couldn't agree more.
There have been some poor performances, Catalan being the one that springs to mind, but sometimes it goes wrong. That's just the point. No one would have minded that if the others had been ok, but because of the reasons you give above, they weren't. I'm not saying it was ok to lose so many on the bounce, but in this situation it was perfectly understandable.
Even just the not playing at home thing is a pretty big thing. Remember how St Helens fair when they had to play a season at Widnes? They really struggled. And they were a lot better than us.

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