As I said, I don't blame Carter for taking care of the club finances and using pay cuts and deferrals as a way to do that, but I do think it is fair to question the way he went about it.

In situations such as this you have to bring people with you and show a degree of empathy. When you look at some of Carter's comments in the press and some of his social media posts, I think he lacks that.. The sinister "we'll remember those who objected" was a needless, stupid remark that, to me, showed that he didn't have that empathy. Suggesting to your employees that "their insubordination will be punished" is not how you win people to your cause. Maybe in the days of the dark, setanic mills, but not today.

The comments about Kershaw and the "I wish I was on what he was on at 21" comment was also an ill-judged remark that lacked empathy, as well as relevance.

I've worked for people who have displayed the sorts of behaviours and attitudes that Carter displays. These people are uniformally good at one thing and that is driving good people out of a business. Carter might think that he can get away with it because his rivals aren't recruiting, but he can't expect his approach to be without consequence.

To me it's significant that a lot of discussion on here is about our defence, which probably shows how woeful our attack is and that we're actually having to defend so much! Attack is the best form of defence they say - I wish I could see light at the end of the tunnel but without that onfield general, we all seem to realise we need, I can't see where improvement is coming from.,

omg we can’t make breaks, we can’t get field position and we can’t make ground

Reading the after match report from Chester, I agree it is the same old rubbish just another week just like it is the same coaching and just another week. He appears to think that the problem relates only to the games since the end of lockdown it doesn’t it relates to 5 wins out of 29 games. He is disillusioned at least he is getting paid to be so how does he think we feel having to be embarrassed at the end of each game.
To those that support his reign remember the club have worked hard to improve our image within the game which with every match this is being chipped away.

Just watching Wigan demolish Hull FC, having earlier watched the Warrington/Saints game - I know we all had aspirations at the start of this season but we're light years away from these teams. The speed they're playing at I can only dream of following Trinity!

I agree with all that but all of wigan saints wire and to an extent leeds and salford havent had to cope with the readjustments weve had due to covid injury etc and their 1 6 7 9 pretty much intact every game so that certainly helps them but without a regular spine it is difficult but ours are on a different level of skill and speed to them and we cannot match them we urgently need a playmaker of quality if we dont want to finish bottom either this year or next