And the Windies cricket team. Didn't quarantine either as far as I know

Again! What you say only stack up if you accept the figures given. Brazil is a semi corrupt nation, China is totally corrupt and the WHO is owned by China! Trump is a vile man but that doesn’t automatically make wrong and the above is a perfect example of what he calls ‘fake news’.

Seriously is it even remotely credible that France, Italy and the U.K. are all 30,000 + whilst Germany claims to be 20% of that, come on it’s just not credible.

However people seem happy not to question these ludicrous figures so long as they can use them to bash Boris! How does this help? This is not a party issue at the end of the day it represent to me just how week British society now is and that’s reflected in our politicians, all of them.

Our governments response has been poor in parts but not so poor as to make other nation figures stack up. We need to open our ears and not just listen to the bits that suit us.

The CIA believe China’s deaths figure is closer to a half a million than 3,000 that its propaganda arm the WHO accepts. We are nowhere near that yet you’d think we had a regime in power every bit as evil as China, utter nonesense.

The truth will out in the end and when the hysteria dies down the U.K. as is so often the case will come out cleaner than most. Lessons will need to be learned sure but perhaps the biggest one is the British people desire to self loathe and believe anything that supports that odd desire to stop,

Quote metallicat="metallicat"And the Windies cricket team. Didn't quarantine either as far as I know'" Yes they did https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/202 ... uarantine/

Quote metallicat="metallicat"And the Windies cricket team. Didn't quarantine either as far as I know'" Yes they did https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/202 ... uarantine/

No they havent.
Although hes a useless wind bag of a Prime Minister, last time I looked, Boris Johnson was still living at No 10 and "running" the country.

Oh dear


I'm sure that you remember all the talk about "flattening the peak" ?
Brazil is still on the way up in a vertical line and while you are quite correct in saying that per capita, at the moment, they are doing better then the UK, their numbers of new daily cases is quite staggering.

What happened to the conspiracy theory ??

Thank heavens it's only the useless windbag one can only speculate where we would be with other so called leaders in charge of I am honest there is hardly a leader among the lot of them Corbyn was is an activist Starmer couldn't make decision to save his life when in charge of CPS and nothing seems to change in respect of him too many agendas not enough cohesion politics are polar opposite at the moment and the gutter journalism doesn't help. Having watched numerous live reports and then seen the summary twist things I stick to Al Jazeera now at least it's down the middle!

What conspiracy, it’s just lies, dammed lies and Statistics. All statistics can be manipulated by clever people to show whatever that person wants to show. We all just have to use our own common sense to judge what’s true and what’s propaganda.

Why don't you check the excess mortality data if you distrust the reporting of COVID19?

I've done some of the groundwork for you (Percentage data captured for All Mortality 14 March - 8 May compared to the last 5 year average).

England & Wales 2020 increase on the previous 5 year average is 60%+ (131,467 / 82,000 )
Sweden 2020 increase on the previous 5 year average is 27%+ (17,925 / 14,079)
Germany 2020 increase on the previous 5 year average is 5%+ (151,661 / 143,906)

Our World In Data.org have even provided graphs for 24 participating countries: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany (Berlin), Germany (Hesse), Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK (England), UK (Northern Ireland), UK (Scotland), UK (Wales).

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"Even Redcat must be wondering why this government seems so scared to use the power it has. What exactly is Boris scared of, all very sinister.¬'"

The "conspiracy" was suggested by posters earlier in the thread, some scheme designed to keep the population of the world in its place and no such thing as the covid pandemic ??
As for common sense to judge propaganda, that's a little more difficult



I always remember the line form the track "pills and soap", "something in the daily rag to cancel any crisis" and there is little doubt that much of the news, now, more than ever before, is driven by an agenda from someone, somewhere.
It's quite staggering just how much can happen without the perpetrators not being called out.

Trump, for instance, would have been a laughing stock with some of the guff that he's come out with but, he has the majority of the US media running scared, almost like they would in a dictatorship.

It's a strange world that we live in, that's for sure.

And I thought you just worked at Empire Stores.....