I totally agree that the law has to be tougher. It sickens me when I see some of the mindless filth in our society
brought before the courts having many times wrecked somebody's life, by violence or whatever, and being handed
joke sentences.
I really don't know what planet some of the juges are on, but they should hang their heads in shame and just for once think of the victim.
Not an advocate of the death penalty but life means life. simple as that.

I'm no expert Ketty but I'd say you would have good grounds to go back on that agreement, especially in light of other claims from that era. It wouldn't be hard to prove you were bullied in to signing.

You and me both Ketty Cat except I didn’t vote Tory

Really? In 2016 we paid in 13 billion and got 8 billion back from the EU we spend about .48% of our GDP in supporting the EU we get back about .3%

We have had our industries dismantled into just in time suppliers as part of a supply chain with many companies that are or were British household names producing and being managed in other European Countries and beyond of course.

This after rebates before rebates it would be about 13 Billion we would pay, this was the figure on the bus the reality is its over half that amount.

As for the death penalty when we leave we will be able to amend our Human Righrs legislation without the EU Court dictating. I would not expect too much change but life should mean life except in exceptional circumstances.

Posting numbers on here is no different to the bus.
Even if ever number is factually true its only half the picture.

We've had a vote. It went against my opinion first time.
We've had another vote and the result was overwhelming.

I don't see the point of the "we won the argument" comment from Corbyn or the 'were all doomed' supporters.
We have a government. Let's move forward and see what happens. We've been stood still too long.

Quote trinity374="trinity374"I totally agree that the law has to be tougher. It sickens me when I see some of the mindless filth in our society brought before the courts having many times wrecked somebody's life, by violence or whatever, and being handed joke sentences. I really don't know what planet some of the juges are on, but they should hang their heads in shame and just for once think of the victim. Not an advocate of the death penalty but life means life. simple as that.'" Yeah would be a fresh of breath air if we had a tougher system Another one this morning https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50798080 That's to add to these that got me anger the other day https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-n ... e-50754863 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... urder.html

Quote trinity374="trinity374"I totally agree that the law has to be tougher. It sickens me when I see some of the mindless filth in our society brought before the courts having many times wrecked somebody's life, by violence or whatever, and being handed joke sentences. I really don't know what planet some of the juges are on, but they should hang their heads in shame and just for once think of the victim. Not an advocate of the death penalty but life means life. simple as that.'" Yeah would be a fresh of breath air if we had a tougher system Another one this morning https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50798080 That's to add to these that got me anger the other day https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-n ... e-50754863 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... urder.html

I think this is Pop Tarts way of saying it’s getting boring now

and I agree, at the end of the day what’s happened as happened and I very much doubt the hard working people will feel much difference.

Quote snowie="snowie"Yeah would be a fresh of breath air if we had a tougher system Another one this morning https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50798080 That's to add to these that got me anger the other day https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-n ... e-50754863 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... urder.html'" I’ve always said Snowie that if, god forbid, anything happened like that to any members of my family I’d be quite happy to flick the switch, pull the trigger, shove the needle with even a grin on my face

Quote snowie="snowie"Yeah would be a fresh of breath air if we had a tougher system Another one this morning https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50798080 That's to add to these that got me anger the other day https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-n ... e-50754863 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... urder.html'" I’ve always said Snowie that if, god forbid, anything happened like that to any members of my family I’d be quite happy to flick the switch, pull the trigger, shove the needle with even a grin on my face

yeah me too but some would like to turn the other cheek and forgive them,
take Diane Abbott for instance she was up in arms over police taking out thieving motorcyclist in case someone but the police continued and it looks like the trend has at least slowed down
Harder stance is needed

Indeed.

There is a major issue regarding some "political/religious" prisoners in that, regardless of how long the spend behind bars, will they ever change their view of the world. In many cases, their views can become further entrenched whilst in prison - the recent London Bridge case proving the point.
Locking them up doesn't help anyone and the sure as hell aren't safe to be released - I'm not sure that there is an answer.
Perhaps not allowing people back into the UK could be an answer but, this only moves the problem elsewhere, it doesn't solve it.
As for the death penalty, it certainly isn't a deterrent and as you rightly point out, there have been plenty of cases in the fairly recent past where innocent people have been banged up and the real perpetrators remain free.

100% correct Wren regarding being locked up, take it from me most are educated more inside about crime than on the out and with 3 meals a day a roof over their head and an occasional spray tan thrown in, yes a spray tan