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Quote: Mick Amos 9 WTW "To say we've been had, is correct. We've been had for 15 years or more by various unethical, selfish and dishonest individuals and groups. Since Michael has come on board, he's acted in good faith. Paid back people he didn't need to pay back legally. But morally he did. When he's listened to others in good faith he's not been afforded the same principles and indeed had the wool pulled over his eyes. So the tenacity to keep going (Swag & Trust included) is a testament to the determination and character of the man and group. We all have a bad time at the office in work but don't often wake up to nasty, personal and vindictive attacks online by fans and fans of other clubs. This impacts massively on family life and has been the case on many occasions. Everyone is glad he continued! After previous owners knocked trust of fans, it took a long time to trust MC. That was understandable. So to be getting to this point is a massive achievement! Is it more for the ground and separate land than what was originally payed? Yes.. Does it grind? Yes.. But having acquired it, it puts us in a stronger position to move forward. We have an asset.

The good times on the field we have had on the field over the past few years have come by selling players at less than their worth as a need, doing things slowly but correctly. It took time, we took the hits, but we got there!

I've always loved Belle Vue, it holds personal memories for me and thousands of other fans. The old girl just won't give in or let go!!! A bit like our fans'"


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Quote: bren2k "Couldn't agree more - we've gone from those fancy drawings, to begging for an aluminium bus shelter; as you say, abject surrender.'"

I get the POV and support it in theory, however how long do we wait before those fancy drawing become reality. Time is not on our side, do we leave the Western Terrace as it is, or make a cheap improvement now while we wait for the funding to construct something better.

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Aren't we restricted on the height if what we can build in the western terrace.

Sure someone hold me that on the way down to the London game.

If so, does seem arrange that until 1985 there was a big stand there anyway.

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Quote: vastman "Correct, I’d rather it take as long as it takes rather than settle for that - we are a SL club. I know money is tight but we will have to do better than that.

Sorry Jinj and Klav I get your point but it’s a rung to low for me.'"

I get what you're saying but I'd like/expect the East stand to be the all singing all dancing stand. I'd have thought there might be planning restrictions for the West stand with houses being behind. If you can't go too deep or high then you don't have much scope for bars and food outlets underneath.

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Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Aren't we restricted on the height if what we can build in the western terrace.

Sure someone hold me that on the way down to the London game.

If so, does seem arrange that until 1985 there was a big stand there anyway.'"


I’m not sure there is. A lot has to do with timing. Had we replaced the old west stand straight away we’d have been entitled replace with like for like. However now 30 odd years has passed since its demolition I don’t know if that still holds.

Basically I don’t think there is a legal restraint in place but I’m fairly sure there isn’t. What I do think is that if local residents objected they would nowadays have a far stronger case than the once dad.

What I would like to note is that imho we don’t need a fully covered ground, SL is a summer sport. If we redevelop the east stand to hold say 3k and the north stand is about 2k that’s cover for 5k straight away.

We don’t really need to offer more than 5k for now in the fear that rain might affect 2 games a year. Making BV a commercial venue is what really counts for now. Tuning the east stand/cats bar/south stand boxes into a genuine entertainment HUB that people really want to visit is imo the main priority.

Keeping a few 1000 folk dry twice a year is something to look at as and when. Don’t get me wrong I’d love it to be fully covered and we deserve it to be but these are the sort of compromises I’m on about - all in good time should be our motto.

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there shouldn't be a problem with height as most denials for development tends to be if there's a restriction of light but in this case the sun comes from the other side so if it was pleasantly finished to wouldn't be an eye sore, anything has to be better than what they have to put up with now plus it would help keep noise levels down too

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