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| Update from 8th October:
One of our colleagues attended the WMDC Cabinet Meeting in Ossett this week. The meeting was attended by around a dozen Wakefield supporters, anxious to find out the latest from WMDC regarding the recent Planning Application from Yorkcourt / Henry Boot regarding the proposed Kitwave facility at Newmarket
The question was asked during the Cabinet meeting, however Cllr Box refused to answer, other than suggesting that the council and club were in ‘sensitive negotiations’, and instead invited those interested to gather after the meeting and that the Head of Planning, Neil Rodgers, would be able to answer the questions raised.
A number of questions were asked of Neil, most of which he could easily answer. However, he mentioned that they were dealing with ‘Trusts’ in the plural, to which we sought clarification and he confirmed that there were more than one Trust and he is in talks with them. He was also asked if Sir Rodney Walker was involved, to which he refused to say one way or other.
Form the discussion it would appear that the issue between the initial Outline Planning Application Public Inquiry and the subsequent LDF (Local Development Framework) Public Inquiry is the area in which the council is most uncomfortable in that there is a belief that Yorkcourt can work within the LDF without the need for the OPP. We would note that the fact that both were running around the same time was known to both Government officers conducting the relevant Inquiries and both not only made reference to the other but also took these facts into account in their deliberations.
Neil Rodgers then went on to say that the pending decision was contentious and the council would seek independent legal advice. It was then pointed out that the council had sought ‘Legal Advice’ in relation to whether to consider the Newcold site as being outside of the catchment of the Unilateral Undertaking (Section 106 agreement) and that despite Freedom of Information requests they had been unable to provide evidence of any such ‘Advice’ having been taken.
Neil was then asked outright for a straight ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answer - is there a chance of the Newcold development going back into the contribution area. He categorically said no chance whatsoever!!
All of this is also now made more complicated still by the plans for HS2 and when this was mentioned he said that although things were still vague, it is possible that it could cut through the site and make it impossible to leave enough land ever to develop so as to achieve the 60000 total!
Other things mentioned was that even though they have this recent letter from Gateleys they are still open to giving Yorkcourt planning for houses (on the proposed Stadium site) in order to help them gather more money to contribute towards a Community Stadium.
Thereafter it appeared as though he just wanted to blame the Inspector and the Government and a poor 106 as the reason for the non-delivery of the Community Stadium.
The above is just a potted version of the discussion. It does however confirm that it would appear that the council are reluctant to turn down the current Planning Application, although a formal decision can only be made by the Planning Committee themselves.
At the meeting we were also advised of something we had heard before, but never able to verify, which is that Yorkcourt were involved in the delivery of the Manchester Arena – we would appreciate someone confirming this if they have any knowledge or evidence of it.
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| We can all contact members of Wakefield Council on any matter we have concerns about. On the Wakefield Council website under Your Councillor full contact details including email address are available. I for one will be making regular contact seeking answers why no decision is anywhere close, why Yorkcourt appear to have the upper hand, why the need for such secrecy about the negotiations , we are not asking for any commercially sensitive information just basic information such who are you negotiating with, how often do meetings take place, when was the last meeting, if they do not want to share such simple details what are they afraid of. Box is top of my list to contact for questioning, Councillors are elected to represent Wakefield residents and have a duty to be open and clear in all matters of concern to residents. I'm not sure how any organisation can justify this length of time with absolutely no solution in sight the only words that come to my mind are inept and inefficient others may be a tad harsher. How many times have they said that 'we are working hard to find a solution' without actually telling what they are actually doing during this claimed hard work on our behalf. 'Working hard' one of the laziest and lame claims in the politicians book of Lazy and Lame Quotes.
Should you decide to email any of the council members, please no abuse, no trolling, just challenging questions and comments
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| Quote: RickK "We can all contact members of Wakefield Council on any matter we have concerns about. On the Wakefield Council website under Your Councillor full contact details including email address are available. I for one will be making regular contact seeking answers why no decision is anywhere close, why Yorkcourt appear to have the upper hand, why the need for such secrecy about the negotiations , we are not asking for any commercially sensitive information just basic information such who are you negotiating with, how often do meetings take place, when was the last meeting, if they do not want to share such simple details what are they afraid of. Box is top of my list to contact for questioning, Councillors are elected to represent Wakefield residents and have a duty to be open and clear in all matters of concern to residents. I'm not sure how any organisation can justify this length of time with absolutely no solution in sight the only words that come to my mind are inept and inefficient others may be a tad harsher. How many times have they said that 'we are working hard to find a solution' without actually telling what they are actually doing during this claimed hard work on our behalf. 'Working hard' one of the laziest and lame claims in the politicians book of Lazy and Lame Quotes.
Should you decide to email any of the council members, please no abuse, no trolling, just challenging questions and comments'"
This is all well and good but I have emailed all 3 councillors in my ward and have yet to have a reply from the 2
Labour ones.
They have no interest other than self interest if it means speaking out against Box.
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| Quote: Sacred Cow "I’ve seen Box quote that he is in talks with the club (not the trust) a couple of times recently. Perhaps for clarity MC could confirm whether this is actually the case or not as there hasn’t been any denial from him as yet?'"
The article says he is in talks with "the rugby league club" whereas the quote says the Belle Vue owners, which we know are different things. I'm not sure the Express does.
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| Quote: RickK "We can all contact members of Wakefield Council on any matter we have concerns about. On the Wakefield Council website under Your Councillor full contact details including email address are available. I for one will be making regular contact seeking answers why no decision is anywhere close, why Yorkcourt appear to have the upper hand, why the need for such secrecy about the negotiations , we are not asking for any commercially sensitive information just basic information such who are you negotiating with, how often do meetings take place, when was the last meeting, if they do not want to share such simple details what are they afraid of. Box is top of my list to contact for questioning, Councillors are elected to represent Wakefield residents and have a duty to be open and clear in all matters of concern to residents. I'm not sure how any organisation can justify this length of time with absolutely no solution in sight the only words that come to my mind are inept and inefficient others may be a tad harsher. How many times have they said that 'we are working hard to find a solution' without actually telling what they are actually doing during this claimed hard work on our behalf. 'Working hard' one of the laziest and lame claims in the politicians book of Lazy and Lame Quotes.
Should you decide to email any of the council members, please no abuse, no trolling, just challenging questions and comments'"
I have contacted my councillors on more than one occasion about the community stadium, I have never had a reply from any of them!
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| Pressure Box and his pack of poodles, email a question a day keep their in boxes busy, copy local/national press media desks and individual reporters into your emailed questions just because they haven't answered is not a reason not to ask again and again, make them take notice. You've seen his response to Cllr Ahmed's challenge, rude and arrogant because he believes he's fire proof even though members of his own party appear to be sick of him. The more people who email and include others on the CC list the more chance the press may sit up and have a closer look at relationships with those involved and maybe wonder why the saga continues inefficiency or something else. Over 400 objected to the latest Yorkcourt plans, 400 plus s emails would be a good start
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