I will hold my hands up and say he was brilliant yesterday. I guess when you don`t see a player week in week out it is quite easy to say to those who rate him that he is over rated . Sometimes you catch a player have a under par performance and start to form an opinion on that but as I say yesterday he was brilliant.

You're still a mile out regarding our props. The only prop we have that's remotely similar to yours is Hirst and he's improving fast and is probably on far less dosh than some of yours.

The two brothers look OK but too suggest either are anywhere near Fifita come on - Dave may be slightly over rated I'm not sure but he's still one of the most destructive runners in SL.

Is there a link to watch the tries from yesterday??????????

Johnstone v Ourvan rubbish aside, I would struggle to bag Ourvan for anything, he's a big solid tackle busting lump that knows how to finish, I wouldn't at all be put out by the thought of him being a Wakey player.
The Chuckle Brothers though....well, I think we've moved on, a couple of seasons ago maybe they'd have been a decent fit, but these day's its tough to see past what we already have.

It’s not rubbish is it, he’s not a patch on either of our wingers and signing him certainly wouldn’t please me but each to there own.

As I read is post he has accepted he is wrong about TJ.

Full game now on Trinity TV. Only 57 views so far!

Normally they have it on Sky but they don't appear to have bothered.

There is no Super League Show this week so it looks like Trinity TV might be the only option.

Yeah its rubbish, its hypothetical bunk, they are 2 different players with a completely different strengths, and neither are available so its Monday night fantasy argument.
The quality of both players and what they bring is tangible, it would be silly to dismiss either.

Except when you do it of course, give it a rest yourr not the coaching genius you seem to think you are. You rate the big lump then fine but not everybody has to agree with you - and on this case that includes me!!

Ah. Ah Van is leaving Widnes anyway so even SV won't care now.