Don’t like singling out players but after last weeks performance and this weeks performance, I would rather of had Kirmond out for the next game. Penalties and errors put us under pressure, he is definitely not a loose forward.

You sir are a killjoy
Cant we just enjoy the ride, i'll even put up with the nose bleed.

My point exactly. Enjoy the ride. Instead of nit picking over errors, enjoy rocky’s Kick to milky. Or grix’s cover tackle!! We are never going to be perfect. But the focus is always on the bits that go wrong

We need something to talk about!

My assessment of life is always that you judge your life on what your worries are. Personally, I'm enjoying the fact that the height of our debate is whether we should have won by more.

I couldn't agree more; as I said straight after the game - Miller's try was a peach, and Grix probably saved the game with that ridiculous 'tackle' - and I use the word tackle in it's broadest possible sense, since what he really did was disregard his own physical wellbeing for the sake of saving a try. Not many FB's in SL would have pulled that off.

We're not the well oiled machine that this team has the capability to become yet - but having watched all the televised games thus far, I don't think any team is; players have had a long lay-off, and adjusting to the speed and intensity of week in/week out SL games takes some time - particularly in the crappy conditions that the opening few months serve up.

On that note, Saints look like they could be the real deal this season; I'd love to know what they feed Roby - he's like the Duracell bunny.

And your vendetta continues. Against Warrington he did cost us but on Friday there was sod all difference between his play the ball and every other play the ball that evening.

If a player cocks up then fine but he didn't on this occasion it was an unbelievably pedantic decision and typical of the attention seekers who ref our games.