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Quote: financialtimes "I'm 100% in agreement with Belly on this.
I can't believe that both Cas and the RFL didn't know that Zac had failed the A sample test on the 8th of September unTil the UKADA informed the club on thursday morning, the testing protocol is to inform governing body and athelete of a failed "A" sample, the athelete should be suspended until the "B" sample is tested and results cross checked. I think the "broke club rules" announcement was a smokescreen to calm the news until after the grand final.
One thing I see for sure is, the lad is as daft as a box of frogs, he needs help and support to make sure we don't get another Terry Newton situation, I hope walker and Chase are receiving similar support and this is not only reserved for "superstars"
Massive shame as he is a great player and I think there is a class a drug problem across the country not just in sport and the whole thing needs to be reviewed as the current laws/regulations are just not working.'"


IF Cas were told about this a few weeks ago, have they brought the game into disrepute and should any action be t, I believe that they would have known and then it comes down to whether they have followed the correct procedure.

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Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "OK what would be the plan to legitimise the production of these drugs from Columbia and Afghanistan (cocaine and heroin respectively) and marijuana that is now openly grown the UK that is strengthening in its THC levels that are now allegedly causing psychotic issues.

I know the issues with alcohol they cause issues with users but its legal, the vast majority of brewers do it legally (obviously there are illegal stills knocking out spirits but nothing compared to drugs).

The point of only a few are criminals due to drug use is probably right due to the high numbers of people using hard drugs (Class A coke etc. as recreational drugs with the funds to use it and not commit crime however all those using illicit drugs and substances are financing serious and organised criminal gangs overseas and in this country.'"
home brewing of beer can be classed as illegal, I had that conversation with the C&E

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Quote: bren2k "Not to mention that legitimising the production and supply breaks the crims stranglehold, and stops much of the well publicised harm that occurs in the supply chain.'"



Yes, there are no 'crims' involved in the trading of legal substances. Tobacco for example.

https://www.ashscotland.org.uk/media/66 ... obacco.pdf
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Quote: bren2k "Not to mention that legitimising the production and supply breaks the crims stranglehold, and stops much of the well publicised harm that occurs in the supply chain.'"



Yes, there are no 'crims' involved in the trading of legal substances. Tobacco for example.

https://www.ashscotland.org.uk/media/66 ... obacco.pdf
www.bat.com/theman
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and yet there were no 'crims' involved in tobacco say 15 years ago. Before the Briitish governemnt started taxing the hell out of it. People go on holiday and see how cheap cigs are and then come back home and must think wtf is going on. Sure we've always paid more in Britain because basiscally it's seen as you're paying extra to the NHS in case of Cancer and other smoking related ilnesses. But then at the same time Alcholol in supermakets seems to get cheaper and cheaper.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "and yet there were no 'crims' involved in tobacco say 15 years ago. Before the Briitish governemnt started taxing the hell out of it. People go on holiday and see how cheap cigs are and then come back home and must think wtf is going on. Sure we've always paid more in Britain because basiscally it's seen as you're paying extra to the NHS in case of Cancer and other smoking related ilnesses. But then at the same time Alcholol in supermakets seems to get cheaper and cheaper.'"
the more you brew the cheaper it gets so for someone like me find it hard when you have to compete with the big boys, also the abv is rated so a reducing in abv also reduces taxation so can be passed to the consumer

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Quote: djcool "Criminals control it because it is illegal,if alcohol were illegal the same criminals would be providing that too'"


Indeed - look to prohibition in the US for a real life example.

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