That depends if we're able to compete in 'big games', flashy rugby is great to watch but sometimes you need to play safe (see Leeds when we played them at Wembley).

Today showed that we still have a fair way to go in order to push for honours and we can't always play the brand of rugby we want as we'll be found out.

While the CC final isn't happening for both of us there's still a chance we could meet in the final, would be awesome to see 2 different rivals going at it rather than the standard 'big clubs'.

My sentiments exactly Vasty, I've seen us turn up with a supposedly weakened team and even I've feared the worst but came away with a result.

I'd sooner we were the underdogs than expecting a win, it makes defeat easier to take and if we get a win it feels even sweeter

If we're targetting the top four I still think it would be better to focus on getting bodies back for Warrington at home which is a game we should definitely be winning whilst Hull away would be difficult even with a full squad.

Hope you're right guys. I would be delighted. I must say though that any attempt at a debate about what may or may not happen seems to be attacked as negative if it is less than ecstatically optimistic. I begin to wonder what the point of a forum is if debate isn't permitted. I am certainly not waving white flags. Merely pointing out that our situation is tricky at the moment and we have done damn well to get where we are

Yep, I understand what you're saying but against Salford we had 3 players pull out at short notice?
This to me says, 'why risk them?'. Let's see what happens tonight and no league points lost.
I would like to think we will have a few more bodies back for Hull.