It's OK we will just have to prove them wrong Phil Clarke has tipped us to finish bottom as well

Don't you just love the experts forecast which are invariably wrong. I know if by some miracle one of them got a prediction right they would sing from the rooftops but this has surely got to be the biggest motivational tool Chris Chester has.
We have performed well in the pre season trials and recruited very well and have some of the best young talent in the British game so if that doesn't count for anything what does

If i had £1 for every time a pundit has predicited us to finish bottom of SL and been wrong, I'd be a rich man.





Although this is perhaps the bizzarest year for them to predict it.

Sorry I didn't make myself clear, I meant in today's game there isn't a 6 who could lace his boots. With the stand off or centre argument I have to disagree with you.

Not sure what they base their predictions on.
It could be based on a dislike of our club and more of ahope.

in the UK game sure - there are quite a few in the world game "fit to lace his boots" though.

sorry I digress - Millward is a dinosaur anyway.
I think its going to be really tight this year and difficult to predict.

It's all based on their like/dislike of a club, it's a worthless subjective opinion and the easiest option to take. If you look at it fairly objectively; we've signed more proven quality players than those who finished below us (and Widnes), we've a more stable and improved coaching setup than last year, we've won 4 out of 5 preseason friendlies, and we finished last season in 8th place having also made a CC semi final.

Again shows what a good season the SL 2017 is going to be. Just look how varied the predictions are from industry specialists, some have us as high as 6th some have us 12th, some have Hull 2nd others have them as low as 6th , several have Saints outside the top 4 some have them second. The only consistent predictions I can see from the expert pundits is that Warrington will finish in 1st or 2nd and Cas will finish in top 4.

Ah that's fair enough. None of the England standoffs since his day have been good enough.
Which is why we kept playing loose forwards there.

Much preferred Schoey in the Centres, than at Stand Off. I actually think Danny McGuire in his prime was very similar to Schoey, though not as good.

Not sure about ones since not been good enough. Love him or loathe thim, I would have liked to have seen Tompkins play at stand off more frequently, rather than at full back.

Toppo faster than Schofield, unreal, what game have you watched, Toppo was a class player, but speed ??? Schoey was in a different class at every aspect of rugby league to Toppo IMHO and also far quicker. Toppo couldnt score a full length Try, Gary scored loads. I think you should look at his stats and how many Try's he scored especially in the NRL where he was unstoppable.