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| Interesting stuff Vastman, I have actually done a few projects with Modular build, mainly schools but some offices too and sports changing rooms. The quality is good and design life is 60 years as traditional construction.
Hospitality boxes are all very good but lounges are much cheaper to provide, with easy access to good seating and a bit of thought in getting players and legends into the lounges that can be really effective and marketable at almost the same income for less overhead. There is a great example at Newbury racecourse.
I think it is probably worth at least looking into temporary terracing or some bleachers type seating to maintain a real home advantage - at Huddersfield we are lucky with our stadium, but it is a bit too nice if you compare it say to the side terrace at Warrington.
Interesting stuff though plenty food for thought. Whatever happens you should not leave Wakefield other than on a very temporary basis, i.e. as Saints did for a year in Widnes as their own stadium was being built.
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| Some great ideas there Vasty, some great looking stadia. It's got to be resolved sometime in the near future so lets hope there's some movement soon.
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| This thought crossed my mind last year. Anyone who has been to Euro Disney will know what I mean, but there's a stunt show and the seating there is pretty basic. It was a really quick count, but it holds about 2500/3000 people and I'm sure it would be a lot cheaper. I'm no expert, but I did wonder at the time what the feasibility would be of having seating like this at Belle Vue and how easy it would be to install.
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| Plenty of land at the side of the new Eastern link road.
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A temporary stand will still be a structure so will need some sort of foundation to counter the loads (both dead and live) likely to be imposed upon it. Still looking at the options they are very impressive and sound like an ideal solution to a near impossible reaility.
Oh and for me the best place for something like what vastman proposes….
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wak ... d-1.505924
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A temporary stand will still be a structure so will need some sort of foundation to counter the loads (both dead and live) likely to be imposed upon it. Still looking at the options they are very impressive and sound like an ideal solution to a near impossible reaility.
Oh and for me the best place for something like what vastman proposes….
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wak ... d-1.505924
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| Quote JINJER="JINJER"Plenty of land at the side of the new Eastern link road.'"
Yes, another location that has crossed my mind, it’s a shame NM was the option on when this scheme was being conceived/coming to fruition. Particularly down by the Doncaster Road end which I understand has been allocated as warehousing.
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| Quote Prince Buster="Prince Buster"(Bit of work there Vasty)
If what you propose is feasible ,then why not go one step further. Forget Belle Vue altogether as a pitch, it would be too expensive to rent and getting the ground ready to site the strucures would also be costly.
For a meccano type stadium I thought the best type of site would be a virgin flat green field. The council owe us big time for this fiasco so why not approach them for a couple playing fields that we could rent cheaply and then site the stadium upon it. If the council let us have them for a nominal rent then the money we would save from renting Belle Vue could go towards renting the stands.
I am also sure there are some playing fields that are council owned around Wakefield that are much better located then the dump Belle Vue sits in.'"
I agree and the two places that spring to mind straight away are the two original sites identified all those years ago - Thornes park or the playing fields behind the Holiday Inn near Norbury. The latter being ideal in every respect. It's a huge site and this stadium would have a small footprint, much of which could be reduced during the closed season - you could rent out the seating and just keep the offices and the main stand. Also has great potential access.
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| Just been reading up on these Vastman, yes this would be a much cheaper option and could work, although not sure of the viabilty of it as being a permanent solution, though at the moment, it looks like the only solution.
Not sure as to whether or not the RFL would buy into it, and can imagine some of the comments from our great friends over the common, especially with their new stadium being approved. Out of curiosity, has the building work on this started as yet?
One cost to consider, stating that the stands and seating are temporary, and can be removed, there would be contractor costs.
Should Newmarket ever happen, or any other site for that matter, and as the stands are classed as temporary. perhaps parts of it could be transported to the new site, which then would reduce the cost of a new stadium.
In the short term, this could be a better alternative to Dewsbury
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| Quote Eastern Wildcat="Eastern Wildcat"Just been reading up on these Vastman, yes this would be a much cheaper option and could work, although not sure of the viabilty of it as being a permanent solution, though at the moment, it looks like the only solution.
Not sure as to whether or not the RFL would buy into it, and can imagine some of the comments from our great friends over the common, especially with their new stadium being approved. Out of curiosity, has the building work on this started as yet?
One cost to consider, stating that the stands and seating are temporary, and can be removed, there would be contractor costs.
Should Newmarket ever happen, or any other site for that matter, and as the stands are classed as temporary. perhaps parts of it could be transported to the new site, which then would reduce the cost of a new stadium.
In the short term, this could be a better alternative to Dewsbury'"
As regards the RFL they had no issues when London were at Harlequins which was at the time half temporary seating and nowhere near as sophisticated as this. So long as it passes all safety criteria etc they won't care, especially as the suff I'm talking about will be indistinguishable from permanent structure on TV.
I'm sure some reciprocal deal could be done with a supplier where they maintain and erect at BV in return for use of our gear for rental when we are not using it. I know that's a bit vague but you get the idea.
Very good point about N/M never thought of that.
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Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"A temporary stand will still be a structure so will need some sort of foundation to counter the loads (both dead and live) likely to be imposed upon it. Still looking at the options they are very impressive and sound like an ideal solution to a near impossible reaility.
Oh and for me the best place for something like what vastman proposes….
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wak ... d-1.505924'"
I always thought that would be a good spot, but it's houses now
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Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"A temporary stand will still be a structure so will need some sort of foundation to counter the loads (both dead and live) likely to be imposed upon it. Still looking at the options they are very impressive and sound like an ideal solution to a near impossible reaility.
Oh and for me the best place for something like what vastman proposes….
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wak ... d-1.505924'"
I always thought that would be a good spot, but it's houses now
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