Big club or not, the fact that Bulls have 60 plus off field staff plus 42 in the first team squad last season was the reason they ended up like they did. 100k per month wages bill is moronic by any standards for a Championship Club.

I have no problem with fair weather fans. People watch rugby to be entertained and it's not a cheap hobby. I can understand why people choose to go only when it's likely to be entertaining.

I suspect this is part of the reason why Hull KR have done so well on season ticket sales, and why Bradford did well at retaining fans the first year they dropped. People pay to be entertained, and going to a game on a Sunday knowing your team will do well and likely win is entertaining.

I don't think we're criticising fair weather fans. I'd love a couple thousand down at Belle Vue. The Bulls had, and probably only Wigan currently have, some real snooty arrogant gits.

Agreed.
Leeds used to have loads but they landed with a bump last season.

Correct and we had this same bizarre conflict on another thread recently. It's those turncoats who were genuinely vindictive and seemed to take great pleasure in our various torments through the years we are on about. It's those few and its a small number who I don't want back under any circumstances, I really don't see why people are struggling with this concept. One is a potentially large group of ordinary if slightly fickle group of people who I'd love to see back at BV - the other is a tiny minority of ex supporters who's actions are detestable and would be in almost any circumstance.

Last year gave me some new-found respect for Leeds fans, although I do wonder how they'd fare if it was year on year.

Wigan have always had the advantage of being the most northerly superb league side, and they sweep up all the rugby league fans in Lancashire. St Helens get Merseyside. Warrington and Widnes scrap it out around the M56. Salford do Manchester. Wigan get the whole county of Lancashire to themselves, and a lot of their fans come from Preston and Chorley and the old cotton towns like Burnley. We should focus a lot on all points south.

I really don't get this anymore!

Any club will have a number of hardcore fans who will follow through thick and thin. Of those, some will be accepting of the situation and others will be less forgiving and seek improvement or will berate those who have tried, but failed.
If a club is successful and wins lots of games it attracts more followers, of all types. Many will enjoy the good times and leave when things go wrong, whilst retaining an affiliation that they hope to reconnect with when things improve again. Some fans, at all clubs will be irritating, annoying and even arrogant. It's just how it is and I will not judge a club, or it's supporters but those I come across as I know we all have the capacity to produce the supporters that have seemingly determined opinions on here.

As for the club, Bradford, if the stories of their staff levels are true, then it is no wonder they are bust, but I have friends who are slowly dying inside waiting news of their clubs survival - have we forgotten how that feels?

Sorry mate but for once I haven't got a clue what you are on about - sorry

Just going back to the number of none playing staff on their books.

Is this number just full time office staff or does this also include casual matchday staff, such as stewards, bar and waiting staff, programme sellers and turnstile operators.

If it includes the latter, then all of a sudden that number isnt over high.

During my time working for the other Super League side that I have worked for, one of my duties involved processing the payroll which included the casual staff like I mentioned above.

Those alone, if I recall correctly totalled well over 100.

And I don't think that turned out too well did it?