Seriously if anyone else comes on here talking pure sense like this, I'm going to stop reading this forum.

I see the evidence each week when the opposition play st a speed we can not and dominate us in the collision for the most part but if you think he isn't a problem you tell me why you are happy with the way our team are conditioned compared to pretty much every other team

Oh and just think of how many games we are out of by half time and tell me that conditioning does not play a part in that

Dont know how relevant this is as I hung up my boots up at amateur level in 2005.

I was in a gym on Saturday and one of the Wakefield players was in. Im not going to name the player, but he was on the next treadmill to me.

We both finished pretty much at same time and I was talking to him, more about fitness than anything. He said he was training alone and putting in a couple of extra hours. We then mentioned treadmill and targets etc and he said that the coaching staff doesnt really like them using the treadmill as it increases the risk of muscle tear. They go in for cross trainer and rower

How many of us have used running exercises as we are advised it builds up stamina.

Whoever told him that must have been one of them there experts - because it's absolutely correct; a treadmill puts pressure on your joints and over prolonged use, can cause injury. The cross-trainer is much smoother and works out almost your full body.

We are crying out for size pace and brute force that is all Wire Wigan Hull STS have class and skill in modern day RL dream on its not there

Thanks for that, I had no reason to doubt him, it was just with the comments on here questioning our conditioners.

Last night however, I did reduce my workout on the treadmill as a trial, by 25%, and used the rower for longer