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Quote: vastman "Problem with MC as I see it is not the deals he’s done - I assume he takes advice from his coaching team who are clearly crap.

He’s done some good stuff especially the BV deal.

It’s his attitude and his style that bother me. I really don’t like his angry dad routine. More Importantly is his management style as I see it that worries me. As someone who’s job means he works for many companies I meet a lot of Managers and a fair few CEO’s at some of the smaller outfits. For me there are broadly speaking two kinds of managers in my experience. Reactive and pro-active.

To me MC seems very much reactive as indeed most accountants are by nature.

Here is an example of what I mean. Monies tight because of attendances dropping lower than budgeted for mid season. MC’s response - sell a good player. That’s fine in pure accountancy terms as it instantly balances the books. However IMO it’s no use to us. What I would like is a pro-active response at least first

This would be something like ‘where else can I make the shortfall before selling the family silver”. I know, a share issue, ask Squadbuilder to put on a dinner dance, come up with some sort of imaginative promotion for the fans or businesses. I can’t be exact because I’m not the CEO and perhaps there were no other options - however I firmly believe he probably never even looked because his default setting is cut cut cut and never ever speculate.

Basically not a businessman but a decent accountant - in which case we will probably always have some sort of club but not a winning one.

I could be a million miles off but it’s certainly the impression he gives off and it seems to rub off on the players who are a defeatist and negative as he seems to be. MC yes you do need to balance the books but remember this - no one ever supported a club because it's double entry book keeping was exceptional - true in most other industries it would get you brownie points but not this one so stop going on about it it's not helping - sorry.

One thing I am certain of is that he has no natural ability to engage with fans or push what little positive PR there is. His desire to foliow up a good news story with a bad one is staggering. Best performance of the year against Bradford and he spends all week chasing up a none story about abusive fans. Bloody hell Michael forget about them and push the positive - sort that one out quietly in the background. It doesn’t matter how right you are or the need to appease the RFL what matters is making people want to support the team.

I think the kindest thing I can say is that MC is probably very good at running the club day to day but is pretty poor at leading it which is a very different job.

Do I think I could do it any better?

Yes actually I do for the very reasons you suggest Prince - how much better I don’t know - but although I do have the pound required to buy it that’s where it stops.

So I live in hope that like Ted MC eventually learns the ropes, because as both you and I know it took Ted a few years to stop being mugged by every passing Aussie.
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said it for ages the club needs a front man. Someone who can issue press releases , engage with the press , media and fans. provide a link with business, offer informed advice, take control of sponsorship and public relations.
Sometimes its not what you do that causes problems its the way you do them.

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Ironically Elston was exactly that and I thought quite good at it.
It went wrong when they gave him financial power too.

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Quote: RealSteel89 "Who are the stay away fans with the negative attitude?

The point of my post is we all have opinions on what we do and don't like. Yet on this forum you are instantly shot down for asking questions of the club by people who will follow blindly. SP asks some very good questions and its nice to have a balance of opinions.
Do Wakefield fans not learn, we have been so badly run all this time and just because someone comes in and says the right things at the time we all believe their every word. Well most of you that disagree with SP were all Glovers best mate when he was at the club, even when certain posters were telling you its all gone belly up people argued with them, look where that got us!

I aren't suggesting in anyway Glover and Carter are the same before someone gets the wrong end of the stick.

Hounding people off the forum will only make this a duller place than it already is!'"
I work with one every day, sick of hearing his opinions while he continues to rip the club to bits and not even contribute anything to the club, but he is quite willing to go to the pub and watch the game from there, how the hell do you expect club to get any revenue in while you get support like that,

SP has had a few good questions but is hell bent on harping on about MC taking the club away from BV, funny how we are in a better position now the threat had been made, if we had continued to just ignore the problem it in its self would of fetch the club to its knees, as for player selection its done within a budget so as he has said the club gets what it can afford, then what we get two of the best players going off the rails you just can't make this up

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Your loyalty is admirable if a little misplaced but all clubs needs supporters like you. I expect you will go whatever division we are in sadly you are a minority and human nature demands success hence our sharp drop in attendances.
I note that he does suggest that if the club are relegated then it depends how many season tickets we sell which will decide if we drop to part time. He is once again passing the blame onto the supporters because how can you buy a season ticket if you don't know which players you will be supporting. It's a classic catch 22 situation.
I hope your faith is justified and he took the action he did for the right reasons and not just to save money. I suppose tomorrow will tell and yes it is sensible to have a plan B but not to make it public but I think that's more an ego trait.'"
yes I would support my club at what ever division it is in but it doesn't make me any less determined to see success there, so if everybody took the stance of only supporting a successful club yr in yr out then it would get pretty boring, today I'm going to feeling that nervous tension that should get you back next season either way.
as for season tickets for next yr how can you predict what happens until you know what league we will be playing

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Quote: snowie "I work with one every day, sick of hearing his opinions while he continues to rip the club to bits and not even contribute anything to the club, but he is quite willing to go to the pub and watch the game from there, how the hell do you expect club to get any revenue in while you get support like that,

SP has had a few good questions but is hell bent on harping on about MC taking the club away from BV, funny how we are in a better position now the threat had been made, if we had continued to just ignore the problem it in its self would of fetch the club to its knees, as for player selection its done within a budget so as he has said the club gets what it can afford, then what we get two of the best players going off the rails you just can't make this up'"


Lets reverse the question you asked. How the hell are we going to make any revenue when the club do nothing to retain the fans? You seem to have come to the conclusion MC has. Essentially your blaming your work colleague and the 2000 others who have had enough of watching dross @ £22 a time for the state of the club! How many times this year has there been any attempt to engage with lost supporters? How many times has it been acknowledged the performance on the pitch is not acceptable but the fans who turn up have had no apologies and no response a week later from the players?

I competley admire your devotion to the club. But you can't expect everyone to feel the same as you! It's not the fans fault and it never has been!

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