cant imagine a man who doesn't know the name of our players would ever be able to start a business or even hold down a job for that matter.

I suppose you can only hope that in the case of these players the chance to play under a genuinely recognised Coach may sway the - you'd hope.

Not sure I would expect a player to 'know' how to get fit to the required standard, that's why we need a competent conditioner

Surely those players who have played thousands of games between them under various coaches and conditioners know if they are in the best physical shape they could be?!! If they feel that the pre season, and current fitness and conditioning isn't/hasn't been right then surely they should have said something?!

Really, give over - maybe the younger ones but the older ones, of course they do.

Andy Mason used to self condition before every match and that was in the days when conditioners were a hair care product.

I wouldn't expect them to refine it to the absolute perfection but I'd expect the basic levels.

Odd this, because we looked fit enough under Clawson two seasons ago - just makes you wonder because it has to be more than one person and one issue that's destroying us.

I think this year some of our players have been quite happy to take the easier option to their fitness/condition and there doesn't seem to have been anyone on their backs making them improve.

It just so happens that the son of Brian Smith is qualified in the art - but is currently employed by Gold Coast Titans.

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Apologies it's his other son,Keegan.

But he also has employment with Trent Robinson at Sydney Roosters.

Shame Smith juniors aren't coming over too, without doubt something is needed to get us fitter and current set up isn't doing it.

Hopefully Keegan will have also seen some video of our shower of poo and said to his dad " Get rid of that lump Clawson" he is stealing money from Wakefield.

I'm starting to think he got the "Clogger" nickname cos that's what one of his fitness regimes does to your arteries.

As for recent comments on players professionalism and taking pride in their physical fitness there is some merit to it.

I live close to Hull and I've seen Danny Houghton out on runs by himself. That is going beyond the set club routine of organised training and get yourself off to the gym lads.

I wonder how many of our lads put the extra time in by themselves which is not seen by the club?