Quote: Wakey Til I Die "So it's all the councils fault then, nobody else has played a part in this farce? Yorkcourt must have been whiter than white, the SoS didn't screw up by not seeing the section 106 for what it was before signing off the development and at no point did the people on the trust at that time (Glover, Elston, the great Sir Rodney etc) take their eyes of the ball and miss what was happening. Yes the council have been utter s in this but there are others to take some blame as well, it has been a shambles from start to finish. Even if Newcold counted we wouldn't be anywhere near a stadium built yet, it's the whole document terms that are the issue. The get out clauses are all over it!
So i've already resigned myself to the fact that the ground is dead. Why?
There is no support from the council to push this through.
The developer hasn't got a pot to you know what in and will walk away if 'forced' to build as the s106 is useless.
The new SoS is a guy who thinks these decisions should be made by local government not central if he can actualy do anything.
A large chunk of the fans don't actually want to move to Newmarket anyway and think it is in totally the wrong place.
There isn't any money for VERY expensive legal action. Who is going to pay for it exactly?
I hearby advise everyone to check their backside to see if there is still a hole in it. As whilst there is there's no chance of a stadium getting built! Sorry if that is defeatist because it probably is but sometimes you have to take a step back and have a look at things. And to me it looks well and truly buggered.'"
Well, your glass is clearly empty mate, and that is your call, but mine and the members of the Trust remain half-full.
Also, please don't put words in my mouth, that is your opinion but it is not mine, so don't try and force it on me for speaking my truth!
To clarify - I have just said that council may have acted unlawfully or ultra-varis and I did not blame them for 'everything' at all. All is told you was facts and my opinion and nothing more. Yorkcourt will I am sure have claimed to acted in best interests of its shareholder and investors, as such, they appear to have not acted unlawfully in any way and we are still talking to them. You might have an issue with them, but our own issue is trying to find a resolution and therefore while we have publicly said what we asked for, they have rejected it and offered an alternative deal which we don't currently think is good enough or as promised. That is what we are continuing to talk about and will do so for as long as it takes.
You are right, Newcold would not have been sufficient to trigger the build, but equally it was almost 2/3rd's, why do you think the council should have chosen not to enforce the S106 and let the developer off? The next development probably would have made up that shortfall and we would have no need to be debating on this forum? Irrespective of what people did of did not know, and the claim is that it was not clear, otherwise action would have been taken, then if WMDC acted unlawfully then it still changes nothing, they either did or did not!
As for Newmarket, well we have said and continue to say that we would listen to suitable proposals to redevelop Bell Vue and still will! However, no one ever promised or committed to redeveloping Belle Vue, they did to Newmarket, so if you give up on Newmarket then you get nothing and your wishes will all come true!
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