As a note on this I saw the Newcold development for the first time this easter whilst up visiting family. I can see why you are upset, it is monsterous. Especially given it is currently only half the size it is going to be.

I don't honestly care what a Cas troll thinks to be honest.

We will do what we have to do, and if it works it works if not it doesn't but at least we tried - it's a bit like we ask from our team

Pathetic, I suspect you are Box - even NGBC won't fall for that slimy slobber.

I know how you feel.

Classy guy aren't you. And a rather stupid one who likes to think he is an expert on everything when in reality you no precious little about anything. Just a sad little unfulfilled bully boy who tries to shout the loudest, a bit Peter Box-esque actually. The difference being Box is quite intelligent to back it up. No I am not him, and neither am I a Cas 'troll', what I am is someone with knowledge on how the inner working of local government works, oh and I was a Trinity season ticket holder for many years. Sadly people like you don't like to accept that others might know better than you, which says plenty about you. You do just as much damage for the cause as those you aim to rise up against by dividing the support. Some could say it is indeed you who is the double agent.

I shouldn't rise to the bait but someone has to show everyone the error of your ways. I'm no doubt you will be back spouting some nonsense, I don't really care, you regularly show yourself up so once more will just amuse me further. As for the Newcold building, before you come on jawing off i'd check the plans if I were you.

So as you say...

Anyway apologies to everyone else, I don't take kindly to being described as Peter Box, a man i cannot tolerate. The thread shouldn't be de-railed it is too important for that so I will once again leave it be. Good luck, really do hope it works out whichever way you choose to play it.

I can't understand if proved that Yorkcourt have shafted us legally or morally, that the YEP, Wakey express etc haven't been on it like a ton of bricks. I't make a good story from whichever angle they came from.

Oh give up with the faux angers, you're so transparent - you've trolled on this issue from the start continually trying to undermine those who at least try. It's so easy to be negative and shoot everything down it's the british way.

Why leave, why not just contribute a positive - you won't be held to account if it's a non starter. Or start another thread just for those who want to call it a day and have a good moan amongst yourselves.

You'd think so, but local papers seem to pander to business and are rarely interested in real stories. Never been impressed by Sadler I'll say no more.

I thought Martyn Sadler was a Wakey fan ?

Ok i'll bite one last time. I've not 'trolled' this subject whatsoever, i've offered my opinion based on my professional experience and just because that differs from yours and as such you don't like it, does not make it trolling. And as it happens so far I have been correct, nothing has happened regarding the stadium, hence there is about to be a need for a call to arms. Not my problem if you can't handle that and as i've said the fact that anyone with an alternative view is the victim of name calling from yourself is more of a reflection on you than me. So it's not faux anger, I just don't like how you try and talk down to people, it's not big and it certainly isn't clever.

So anyway my supposed negative is I don't think protests alone will have an effect, but my positive is that the judical/legal route might well do so. It could at the very least scare the interested parties to be a little more forthcoming with their negoiations and at that point then a show of public support may mean people take notice. If that's the plan great, go for it on the proviso that legal advice has been sought and it is seen as a viable option. But a march to the town hall with a few placards is unlikely to cut the mustard by itself, it needs some meat behind it. Yorkcourt have shown their hand already and politicians are fluent in telling you what you want to hear and then doing nothing. Hopefully a threat of action will spur them into life, if not it will have to be all out attack. Wakefield needs new facilities and I will be as happy as anyone to see them built, it is why I signed the petition in the first place.