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| Quote TRB="TRB"Didn't take it as a dig!
You may be right, and it has all been considered and is one of many angles we have open to us, but only if it takes us closer to what we want from the process. AFAWK the SoS has an overview on this process - and is not best pleased. If we continue to get nothing, then we will act, but we hope it wont come to that.
I took your post as being one more indicative of resignation to the idea that nothing will ever happen - there are plenty who would agree with that and I don't blame them, but, from the amount of meetings and pace of activity - which has steadily built over the past few months, we remain hopeful that we can come to an acceptable deal at the end of this process. If we do, it will have all been down to the efforts of those who contributed to the petition, the letters and all the other showings of support we have had over the years - even my friend NGB4C.
The likelihood is that the land that NC sits on would have got PP in any case - with or without us, as the land was prime for removal from the GB and turning into development land. There are other bits of the site which are more valuable which may not have got PP and these remain undeveloped for now, but if, IF, we get a stadium, be it at BV or NM, out of this it will all have been a worthwhile process.
Remember, no-one was offering us a penny towards a stadium once the council pulled Thornes off the table and that is only about 5/6 years ago! Its a short time in development terms - as our friends down the lane will learn with their current proposal - they still have fans who think they'll be building it next year!!! Patience is everything in this game - I've had to learn that!'"
Worthwhile process!
If you get BV and not NM how about telling the local residents on Newmarket who have sold up ,lost thousands and who are going to live in an industrial est it's Worthwhile , the very first meeting about NM it was " how do we get this out of green belt" so don't kid yourself .
So much weight was put on the development because of the stadium and the way wakefeild was going to end childhood obesity but wanted a fast food outlet 200 yards away.
I think the word you are looking for is selfish
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| Quote TV200="TV200"Worthwhile process!
If you get BV and not NM how about telling the local residents on Newmarket who have sold up ,lost thousands and who are going to live in an industrial est it's Worthwhile , the very first meeting about NM it was " how do we get this out of green belt" so don't kid yourself .
So much weight was put on the development because of the stadium and the way wakefeild was going to end childhood obesity but wanted a fast food outlet 200 yards away.
I think the word you are looking for is selfish'"
If I lived next to an old pit on a junction next to the M62 one junction down from M1/M62 interchange I would have expected it to be developed eventually. I live next to unit 41 ind estate (used to be fields) and that is worthwhile its provided me with employment for the last 20 years. Wish it had a stadium thought but hopefully stadium at NM will still happen.
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| Quote TV200="TV200"Worthwhile process!
If you get BV and not NM how about telling the local residents on Newmarket who have sold up ,lost thousands and who are going to live in an industrial est it's Worthwhile , the very first meeting about NM it was " how do we get this out of green belt" so don't kid yourself .
So much weight was put on the development because of the stadium and the way wakefeild was going to end childhood obesity but wanted a fast food outlet 200 yards away.
I think the word you are looking for is selfish'"
Green belt?
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| Quote TV200="TV200"Worthwhile process!
If you get BV and not NM how about telling the local residents on Newmarket who have sold up ,lost thousands and who are going to live in an industrial est it's Worthwhile , the very first meeting about NM it was " how do we get this out of green belt" so don't kid yourself .
So much weight was put on the development because of the stadium and the way wakefeild was going to end childhood obesity but wanted a fast food outlet 200 yards away.
I think the word you are looking for is selfish'"
But isn't the Newmarket site now designated for B8 warehousing irrespective of the stadium so it will be covered in warehouses anyway. The Newmarket inquiry preceeded the LDF inquiry by a matter of weeks and the site was always going to be taken out of Green Belt irrespective of the Stadium as there was a need for Wakefield MDC to find land for development in the district in order to create much needed job opportunities for the people of Wakefield and surrounding areas.
I will be very disappointed if there is no stadium at Newmarket but at least the site is capable of creating jobs for the district.
I think the words you are looking for is NIMBY.
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| Quote Sandal Cat="Sandal Cat"But isn't the Newmarket site now designated for B8 warehousing irrespective of the stadium so it will be covered in warehouses anyway. The Newmarket inquiry preceeded the LDF inquiry by a matter of weeks and the site was always going to be taken out of Green Belt irrespective of the Stadium as there was a need for Wakefield MDC to find land for development in the district in order to create much needed job opportunities for the people of Wakefield and surrounding areas.
I will be very disappointed if there is no stadium at Newmarket but at least the site is capable of creating jobs for the district.
I think the words you are looking for is NIMBY.'"
Nimby hell ye
I think you will find out that no one objected to the stadium ,but the objection were pointing out that there is no stadium and it was all about warehouses,but no you wouldn't listen .
Your point about job's why put a jobs were unemployement is the lowest and were everyone as to travel to the site
So what was it 2000 jobs no was it 1500 no was it 800? It's now less than 20 according to NC ( low skilled)
Hell of a legacy wakefield the home of the warehouse
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| Quote TV200="TV200"Nimby hell ye
I think you will find out that no one objected to the stadium ,but the objection were pointing out that there is no stadium and it was all about warehouses,but no you wouldn't listen .
Your point about job's why put a jobs were unemployement is the lowest and were everyone as to travel to the site
So what was it 2000 jobs no was it 1500 no was it 800? It's now less than 20 according to NC ( low skilled)
Hell of a legacy wakefield the home of the warehouse'"
And you successfully avoid the pertinent points once more:
1. The land was going to be industrial with or without a stadium.
2. I have no idea why you are on a RL forum.
We will see what turns out.
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| Quote TV200="TV200"Nimby hell ye
I think you will find out that no one objected to the stadium ,but the objection were pointing out that there is no stadium and it was all about warehouses,but no you wouldn't listen .
Your point about job's why put a jobs were unemployement is the lowest and were everyone as to travel to the site
So what was it 2000 jobs no was it 1500 no was it 800? It's now less than 20 according to NC ( low skilled)
Hell of a legacy wakefield the home of the warehouse'"
Who would not listen. I think you are mistaking me with Mr Harold Stephens, HM Planning Inspector who recommended that the Sectetary of State grant consent.
Of course it was all about warehouses, it's the warehouses that will pay for a stadium or a redeveloped Belle Vue. No warehouses or development, no stadium or BV. How did you think the stadium was to be paid for.
Where would you put development to creat jobs. You can only put it where there is land suitable for development close to infrastructure and Newmarket fitted the bill, stadium or no stadium, and that is what 2 members of HM Planning Inspectorate thought.
I appreciate your honesty on being a NIMBY but the fact is that the Newmarket Colliery site was always going to be designated for development sooner rather that later irrespective of whether there is a stadium or not.
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| Quote TV200="TV200"Nimby hell ye
I think you will find out that no one objected to the stadium ,but the objection were pointing out that there is no stadium and it was all about warehouses,but no you wouldn't listen .
Your point about job's why put a jobs were unemployement is the lowest and were everyone as to travel to the site
So what was it 2000 jobs no was it 1500 no was it 800? It's now less than 20 according to NC ( low skilled)
Hell of a legacy wakefield the home of the warehouse'"
Not sure what you're saying about Jobs. When all the land is developed there will be hundreds of jobs, you seem to be talking about the one building that is currently being built, the NewCold. Do you think the rest won't be developed?
I know people that travel from all over Wakefield to work on the 41 industrial Estate, so again not sure what you're saying with 'were everyone as to travel to the site'.
I live close to the develpoment and I hope it does gets built, stadium or not.
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| If that was the case why did YCP a need you ?
What they needed was a level and you were it
What you keep avoiding is , was you told during the PI that there was no promise of a stadium ? Please answer
And I come on here to see if your still saying " can't say anything but it's going to be soon "
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| Quote Sandal Cat="Sandal Cat"Who would not listen. I think you are mistaking me with Mr Harold Stephens, HM Planning Inspector who recommended that the Sectetary of State grant consent.
Of course it was all about warehouses, it's the warehouses that will pay for a stadium or a redeveloped Belle Vue. No warehouses or development, no stadium or BV. How did you think the stadium was to be paid for.
Where would you put development to creat jobs. You can only put it where there is land suitable for development close to infrastructure and Newmarket fitted the bill, stadium or no stadium, and that is what 2 members of HM Planning Inspectorate thought.
I appreciate your honesty on being a NIMBY but the fact is that the Newmarket Colliery site was always going to be designated for development sooner rather that later irrespective of whether there is a stadium or not.'"
There was not enough in to build a stadium even if you built everything,
Again if it was always going to be why did YCP need to build a stadium?
Ask yourself why did YCP agree to every little detail during the PI ? Because they know it was never happening .
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| Quote Shifty Cat="Shifty Cat"Not sure what you're saying about Jobs. When all the land is developed there will be hundreds of jobs, you seem to be talking about the one building that is currently being built, the NewCold. Do you think the rest won't be developed?
I know people that travel from all over Wakefield to work on the 41 industrial Estate, so again not sure what you're saying with 'were everyone as to travel to the site'.
I live close to the develpoment and I hope it does gets built, stadium or not.'"
My gut feeling is no it won't , give it 2 years or so and they will go for change of use and along will come housing ,that's were the money is.
People travel if there is an infurstructor but there isn't one nor will there be based on 20 jobs
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