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| I'd be happy securing Belle Vue for the clubs future use at this moment in time, any development of the ground would be a bonus.
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| The point being that one way or the other, through incompetence, naivety or just bad luck, WTW is being shafted once again; and because so few people in the City give a damn, there won't be any public or media brouhaha to embarrass those responsible into action.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"The point being that one way or the other, through incompetence, naivety or just bad luck, WTW is being shafted once again; and because so few people in the City give a damn, there won't be any public or media brouhaha to embarrass those responsible into action.'"
I wouldn't bet on that!
We've shown once before that, when united in cause, we can achieve something. We can and will become a nuisance again, if it comes to it!
The next few weeks are crucial in that respect!
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| Lets not forget this is more than a WTW matter it was a community stadium with community facilities. A massive amount of planning gain has been provided and a 106 should have put significant funds back into the community as a result. Many people from all sectors of the community spoke at the enquiry in support of this and they have also been let down.
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| What are we going to do about it,can we organise ,protest rally,petition,we can not let them ride roughshod over Commuity Trust.
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| Quote Joe Banjo="Joe Banjo"What are we going to do about it,can we organise ,protest rally,petition,we can not let them ride roughshod over Commuity Trust.'"
I can assure you that things are happening behind the scenes and its a little too early to start organising protests etc. but please bear with us. Depending on outcomes we may need everyones support.
Lets not forget this is a Community Stadium, not a stadium solely for Wakefield Trinity. Yes we will be the anchor tenant but will pay rent to play there and not own the stadium whether that be at Newmarket or a redeveloped Belle Vue. The facilities proposed at Newmarket were not just a stadium but many other facilities that would benefit the citizens of Wakefield and many other sports.
No one is asking for Wakefield MDC to give money to or prop up Wakefield Trinity. All we are asking is that the Council and the Developer deliver what they agreed to deliver when planning on an old colliery site was granted following the Public Inquiry- nothing more, nothing else.
If anything less is delivered then the people of Wakefield, not just fans of Wakefield Trinity have been duped and let down and we collectively cannot allow this to happen.
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| Quote Sandal Cat="Sandal Cat"I can assure you that things are happening behind the scenes and its a little too early to start organising protests etc. but please bear with us. Depending on outcomes we may need everyones support.
Lets not forget this is a Community Stadium, not a stadium solely for Wakefield Trinity. Yes we will be the anchor tenant but will pay rent to play there and not own the stadium whether that be at Newmarket or a redeveloped Belle Vue. The facilities proposed at Newmarket were not just a stadium but many other facilities that would benefit the citizens of Wakefield and many other sports.
No one is asking for Wakefield MDC to give money to or prop up Wakefield Trinity. All we are asking is that the Council and the Developer deliver what they agreed to deliver when planning on an old colliery site was granted following the Public Inquiry- nothing more, nothing else.
If anything less is delivered then the people of Wakefield, not just fans of Wakefield Trinity have been duped and let down and we collectively cannot allow this to happen.'"
Being no kind of expert on this type of thing, what is the actual state of play? What is LEGALLY bound? Do the council and Yorkcourt HAVE to provide those facilities by law or is the wording written that they can sidestep the community side of it? Forgetting what they should or shouldn't do morally, is there a get out clause for them?
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| Quote Theboyem="Theboyem"Being no kind of expert on this type of thing, what is the actual state of play? What is LEGALLY bound? Do the council and Yorkcourt HAVE to provide those facilities by law or is the wording written that they can sidestep the community side of it? Forgetting what they should or shouldn't do morally, is there a get out clause for them?'"
I would certainly not claim to be an expert but I worked in development for most of my career so I have a bit of knowledge on the subject.
I know people want to know what's going on but please trust us. The matter is not simple - when is it ever - but there are people working on this but we cannot make public what we are doing. It would be like telling the Germans which beaches we were planning to land on in Normandy on 6th June 1944.
As I say please Trust us and be ready to give us your support if/when we need it.
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| Quote Theboyem="Theboyem"Being no kind of expert on this type of thing, what is the actual state of play? What is LEGALLY bound? Do the council and Yorkcourt HAVE to provide those facilities by law or is the wording written that they can sidestep the community side of it? Forgetting what they should or shouldn't do morally, is there a get out clause for them?'"
A s106 agreement *should* be legally binding, but reading between the lines of what vasty has posted, it sounds like YCP have drafted it in such a way that they've deliberately built in an escape hatch, which the planning bods at WMDC have failed to spot; so it's been signed by all parties and no longer obligates YCP to do anything like what was originally intended.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"A s106 agreement *should* be legally binding, but reading between the lines of what vasty has posted, it sounds like YCP have drafted it in such a way that they've deliberately built in an escape hatch, which the planning bods at WMDC have failed to spot; so it's been signed by all parties and no longer obligates YCP to do anything like what was originally intended.'"
That's not too far off, but also not that simple. There are avenues to explore, which is ongoing, and sometimes the threat of those avenues can be enough to bring people to the table.
There is more than a RL club with something to lose here and we will be pointing this out to certain parties!
There are some good people involved here and they are quite focused for the next round of battles!
Where there is life there is hope!
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| Surely the government ie. Mr Pickles and co. have been 'duped'.
I am sure they would not take kindly to something they have approved turning out to be ' not what they approved'.
Can they not be involved or at least made aware of the situation ?
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