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Quote: PopTart "I don't agree with the Tansey part.
I posted this on the Cas forum but the high shot is something that can happen either on purpose or by accident because the tackle is part of the game. It has to be assessed.
A push on the ref is not part of the game and should be treated seriously.
You are not comparing harm to the receiver, you are comparing importance and likelihood in the game.

For me a head shot needs dealing with but there is a range of bans that could apply to different circumstances. The ban for a push on the referree has to be a major deterant from even trying it.
Tansey deserves the ban. Whether the individual head shot deserves more is debatable.'"

course he could plead as steve renouf did when he shoved an aussie ref to the ground that he was having a hypoglycaemic episode as a result of his type 1 diabetes and was rushing to get some sugar ..... and I am nearly sure renouf got off with it

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Quote: bren2k "Defending this one is as ridiculous and desperate as say, defending Rangi Chase for his act of outright thuggery against Tangi Ropati.'"


comparing those two incidents is outrageous to say the least.

I'm not defending Tansey, I still think he was unlucky to be in that position, yet agree the force he used was unneccesary.

I'm discussing what the cncensus is on whether the ramifications are in line with the offence, and indeed other Grade C charges

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There are certain elements of Rugby League which should forever remain sacrosanct and making contact with an official is one of them. I think Tansey deserved his ban and I don't beleive it's harsh, however even if it was harsh I'd be happy to live with it because it sends out a strong message.

Questioning officials should also be overtly reinforced in order to send a strong message to players and coaches.

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Just trying to imajine this thread on a football forum "good god a player pushed a ref"

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Having seen this incident I can't believe people are defending Jordan Tansey. Ffirst of all, he shoves the ref with sufficient force to, like somebody has already said, force his neck back whiplash style. Secondly, the referee is travelling at such a pace that Tansey could easily have avoided him. Thirdly, Tansey was stood in a position where he was aware before the incident that the referee was travelling towards him. He made a conscious decision to shove him with force, rather than step aside or simply grab a hold of the referee to move him cautiously to the side.

In short, the shove seemed a lot more aggressive than it had to be and could have hurt the ref. I think the ban was the correct length and severity of punishment for the incident. You cannot do what Tansey did in the nature that he did it.

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Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "comparing those two incidents is outrageous to say the least.

I'm not defending Tansey, I still think he was unlucky to be in that position, yet agree the force he used was unneccesary.'"


I'm not comparing the incidents - I'm comparing the defence of the indefensible.

There is nothing 'unlucky' about this incident nor is there anything disproportionate about the punishment; one thing that has always been a badge of pride in RL is respect for the officials - although that has been eroded in recent years thanks to the whinging and whining of certain players, this was a significant step over the line and a message has to be sent out.

Any player who is malicious or downright thick enough to push a ref deserves everything he gets - apart from the support of one-eyed fans who cry foul, knowing full well that if he played for a rival club, they'd advocate a lynching.

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