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Quote: El Rey "Oh i get out, in fact i'm going to the meeting next week.

May even ask MC a question, face to face, am i not so brave

Well done at least you read my post which makes a change rather than assuming what I write is negative. I note that you do not answer my question regarding KH so I presume you have no idea what contribution she has made.

I feel you prove my point if the only time you go out is to a Wakefield Trinity related event the winter months must drag but it does explain your interest in computers. I doubt you will be able to ask a question face to face but you may be able to write one on a piece of paper unless of course they remember to bring a microphone along with them.

I suppose I had better make the post subject related because I don't want to be accused by one of the moderators of deviating from the thread so why don't you ask him "if he thinks that London, should they go into administration will be demoted to Championship 1" I know not a good question but thread related and you never know I may be at the meeting to hear the answer.

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Quote: Wakefield No 1 "67,545 x 2
You are Carol Vorderman and i claim my £5.00.
The point i was making was that it was nowhere near full and that this was for a double header and both games were semi finals so of some significance.
Without treading on Agent XIII's territory and being unnecessarily negative (oh no this is about RL not Michael Carter!!) i think that the attendance was poor.
On another thread i posted a number of attendances theat were comparable or better (one included france for god's sake!!) and all were for single games, so i don't think i was being unfair.
If those two games were being played on the same basis in RU you would not be able to get hold of tickets for love nor money.
In recent memory GB have commanded bigger attendances for games against the aussies at the old Wembley so why was this one attended by so many less?
I think a lot of people have been turned off from our international game in recent years due to the messing about by the rfl, the break up of the GB team in favour of the "home nations" and IMO the sum of those parts is less than the whole that was GB.
As for whether it was a success, that will have to be assessed when the figures have been added up, because the rfl have a proven track record at selling something for nothing.

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Quote: kinleycat "To put it into context67,545 - England vs New Zealand/Australia vs Fiji, Wembley 2013 (this weekends double header)
67,009 - Australia vs France, SCG 1951
66,540 - England vs Australia, Wembley 1995

We can and should do better.'"


I see what you are getting at but to put it into greater context:
Sydney is Australia's biggest conurbation where rugby league is the number one winter sport. None of those games at the SCG are in the last fifty years and were played at a time when international rugby league was more competitive - I believe France won both of those test series. It was also at a time when Australia probably felt more isolated as a country and welcomed any international opposition. Today they are spoiled with the best quality club competition and state of origin series so with Australia being so dominant, international rugby doesn't have the same interest and wouldn't get anywhere near those crowds today. They even played the 2008 final in Brisbane because they didn't think they would get as big a crowd in Sydney.
London is England's biggest conurbation where rugby league is barely on the radar and the fan base is generally 200 miles away. The 1992 match at the top of your list was a one off world cup final off the back of some heavy promotion in London and two closely fought ashes series, where arguably GB should have won the 1990 series.
The nearest comparison I would say is at the bottom of your list which was the centenary world cup final. This was the last winter season and everything stopped for a month while the tournament was played.

I think we probably could do better but it in all fairness it was a damn fine effort.

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Quote: kinleycat "To put it into context67,545 - England vs New Zealand/Australia vs Fiji, Wembley 2013 (this weekends double header)
67,009 - Australia vs France, SCG 1951
66,540 - England vs Australia, Wembley 1995

We can and should do better.'"


What, do better than the best attendance for 21 years? Wow, there is nothing like setting high targets.

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Quote: kinleycat "The point i was making was that it was nowhere near full and that this was for a double header and both games were semi finals so of some significance.'"


When looking at historical precedents, it's also probably worth considering that we're currently in the depths of a recession so deep that many working class people are making a choice between feeding themselves or their children; bear in mind also when making comparisons to the duller code, that the demographic of that brand of 'rugby' tends to be largely made up of people to whom a recession is pretty meaningless, whereas TGG is traditionally supported by those very same working class folk who are being squeezed from all sides, and not in a good way. A trip to Wembley for the majority of heartland RL supporters, cheap tickets or no, entails transport and accommodation, so it's in no way a cheap weekender.

Given all of the macro-factors, I think the attendances at this World Cup have been creditable; what I have less confidence about is the ability of the old duffers at Red Hall to carry that positive momentum forward - if they've got any sense, they'll retain the services of whomever was in charge and give him a marketing role at the RFL.

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Excellent point re:social strata from which RU 'supporters 'come .
Many who attend RU internationals never attend other RU matches.
It is a form of' social climbing ' and in to say I was at 'Twickers.'
I have relatives who do not know one of a rugby ball from another, but regularly attend RU internationals.
They and their friends also look down on RL despite the fact they know nothing about it.
I have tried to engage them in intelligent conversations re. the two codes, as I actually watch both, but the ignorance is amazing /alarming.
Now I avoid them,even at funerals and weddings.











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