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Quote: wrencat1873 "How much improvement do you want in 2 years !
2 years ago, we avoided the wooden spoon by beating the Bulls at home on the last day.
We had a team of young lads with half a handful of experienced players and the better players were all on their way out, due to having offers from other clubs.
We then sign pretty much a squad of new players and scrape 8th in SL.
The best case scenario this term was 6th/7th but a sensible view was 8th -10th which is where we are likely to finish.
Really, bearing in mind the clubs resources, what do you expect ??'"

I would agree with him. Performances and finishing positions are relative, where we were and what team we had in the past is irrelevant, this squad has the ability to play a far better, more expansive game than five drives and a kick up to the opposition 20/30m, but it simply isn't doing it.
There have been threads all over the place recently questioning the club's ability to pay the bills and it's financial position due to virtually giving season tickets away and being unable to attract full paying customers, the club can do all it wants to promote games with reduced prices etc but ATEOTD the only thing that will make new fans pay the full price is the product on the pitch, Agar and crew have a duty towards the club in this matter and they are not heeding it.
The rose tinted can shout all they want about the last two performances but both were of poor quality against dire opposition and not of a standard that is going to attract newbies, even at the risk of losing games there needs to be more emphasis on entertaining the punters not boring them to death, Agar should have been made to understand the importance of this by Glover before he started pushing promotions with cheap tickets, if he has been and can't coach the team to play attractive rugby then he should be shown the door.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "I agree with you that we should have seen those games out better against Hudds and the one against Salford but Cas were excellent at MM and played at a very high level and simply just did a number on us that day


I do think though if we can play to our best and we're right up for the fight, we an beat Hull.'"


Cas did play well but were so utterly abysmal that it is hard to know how the game would have gone if we had got off the bus. If you play like that the opposition will look good. That said Cas have done well lately but it is still a game we should have been looking to win as is the next timne we play them

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Quote: Shifty Cat "I must be watching a different game because imo the one thing we don't play is 5 drives and a kick.

Like Bren said the other day which I agree with, that winning run we had last years has become a bit of a monkey on Agar's back because it's raised fans expectations this season that we'd be almost an automatic into the top 8.

Got to laugh that just because someone doesn't share your opinion, they are rose tinted.'"

You have to get through good sets of 6 and we have consistently failed to do that. Yes it can be a bit dull, but that's RL these days. Big, fast strong, go-forward battering rams who have to win the battle to get up off the floor quickly and win easy yards. No errors. Kicks that make the opposition play from deep. Of course we all know this, but it is something we did quite well under Kear more often than we have under Agar. You have to win the field position before you can start the flashy stuff. We often try to play ourselves out of a box with flashy stuff in the wrong part of the pitch and pay the price.

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Quote: Topcat13 "I total agree with this!
Not unreasonable to expect a level of performance like at the back end of last year!
Yes we might have over archived last season!
But come no where near this year with a settled squad and a marque signing!
So we are under performing IMO! Why?

It don't matter how much you spend?
17 blokes against each other if u run harder and tackle harder your gonna win!
The axe falls with the coach!
If he can't get them to perform get someone who can!'"



After 18 games last year we had 12 points - this year we have 15.
The run at the end of last year came as a result of a settled and injury-free (relatively speaking) squad.

The start of last season saw us struggle to get the best out of our key player as he had no suitable foil to work with (Smith and Sykes).
This year we have been missing that foil once again for a large part of the season, now he is back and we have won the last 2 games (all be it against "weaker" opposition).
Perhaps we should wait another few weeks to see whether Sykes can add that extra dimension to Smith's game again and we can then kick on like we did last year.

I do think there are a couple of games that have got away from us that realistically we should/could have won but that happens to everyone over the course of a season.
We have a lot to do to make the top 8 this season but at this stage of last season you would have given us absolutely zero chance of making it so let's not assume that this season can't be the same.

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Quote: charlie63wildcat "You have to get through good sets of 6 and we have consistently failed to do that. Yes it can be a bit dull, but that's RL these days. Big, fast strong, go-forward battering rams who have to win the battle to get up off the floor quickly and win easy yards. No errors. Kicks that make the opposition play from deep. Of course we all know this, but it is something we did quite well under Kear more often than we have under Agar. You have to win the field position before you can start the flashy stuff. We often try to play ourselves out of a box with flashy stuff in the wrong part of the pitch and pay the price.'"



Yep agree with that.

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When suggesting we 'should' have won certain games, some people conveniently forget that there are an equal number of living, breathing, thinking (to some extent) human beings on the pitch, who have a say in how that pans out; we're not playing against cardboard cut-outs!

There are many games that we 'could' have won, but I'm not sure about 'should.'

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