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| Quote Fordy="Fordy"Perhaps Davide or someone else from the club that reads these forums would be kind enough to enlighten everyone. I'm sure if there's a good reason for it then most fans would accept it, but to go from "home fans can stand wherever they want" to this with no communication is very annoying for lots of people.'"
I entered this forum late last night after reading the above post. I explained the reasons and categorically mentioned the severity of our problems on the Western Terrace. Wakefield Trinity Wildcats are striving towards an improved match day experience and aim to eliminate these fans that are spoiling it for the rest. We will isolate the fans who are responsible and subsequently ban the culprits.
Can I remind one person on here, I am happy to take the flack and will hold my hand up if the club isn't as efficient as we strive to be, but I do not appreciate personal remarks made against my position at the club or character. We will do what's best for all our fans, home and away that attend fixtures in our stadium, as safety is the paramount concern. Essentially the club employ a Ground Safety Officer who is directly responsible for all these issues, and he his the person who makes all the safety decisions, alongside Key Security, West Yorkshire Police and Wakefield Council. I am only the spokes person for the club and responding to the post above as a matter of courtesy.
Could I now ask the moderators to close this thread as I have enough information to arrange a meeting with the said organisations.
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| Quote Davide Longo="Davide Longo"I entered this forum late last night after reading the above post. I explained the reasons and categorically mentioned the severity of our problems on the Western Terrace. Wakefield Trinity Wildcats are striving towards an improved match day experience and aim to eliminate these fans that are spoiling it for the rest. We will isolate the fans who are responsible and subsequently ban the culprits. '"
The trouble with the Cas fans was in the North stand was it not?
Quote Davide Longo="Davide Longo"Can I remind one person on here, I am happy to take the flack and will hold my hand up if the club isn't as efficient as we strive to be, but I do not appreciate personal remarks made against my position at the club or character. We will do what's best for all our fans, home and away that attend fixtures in our stadium, as safety is the paramount concern. Essentially the club employ a Ground Safety Officer who is directly responsible for all these issues, and he his the person who makes all the safety decisions, alongside Key Security, West Yorkshire Police and Wakefield Council. I am only the spokes person for the club and responding to the post above as a matter of courtesy.'"
You may take them as personal, but they are not. The way you have waded in on here with a mixture of bravery and naivety does nothing to endorse your capability to perform a senior management role at the club in my opinion, and if that's personal then I'm sorry but it's my right to comment when you come on here riding roughshod over some peoples' views having performed awfully in implementing significant and unwarranted changes to the matchday experience without doing the leg work and the basics on root cause first. If you don't like my criticism, then I suggest that you stop reading threads on messageboards full stop, because as an officer of the club you're going to get some flak when poor decisions are made.
Quote Davide Longo="Davide Longo"Could I now ask the moderators to close this thread as I have enough information to arrange a meeting with the said organisations.'"
This is supposed to be independent of the club, so I'd be disappointed if they closed it because you asked them to. If you want a forum where you have editorial control then set one up on the club's own website.
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| Quote violetrwb="violetrwb"You may take them as personal, but they are not. The way you have waded in on here with a mixture of bravery and naivety does nothing to endorse your capability to perform a senior management role at the club in my opinion.'"
You clearly have an axe to grind with Davide; why not take him up on his offer of a 1:1 discussion?
Either way, I'm reasonably sure you don't have the authority to conduct his performance review, unless you're Andrew Glover?
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"You clearly have an axe to grind with Davide; why not take him up on his offer of a 1:1 discussion?
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You are clearly mistaken.
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| I have never seen another club where there are so many "supporters" who want to complain about something or another. Perhaps its our lack of success over the years on the field but it really is demoralising and depressing. Its as though all they all get out of the wrong side of bed EVERY morning.
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| The only problem with the west terrace is we are now no longer allowed to stand there. Which is where I have stood all my life as it is the best view of the pitch in my eyes. I am now expected to go stand with sed troublemakers in the north stand as this is my next best view. No thanks!
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"You clearly have an axe to grind with Davide; why not take him up on his offer of a 1:1 discussion?
Either way, I'm reasonably sure you don't have the authority to conduct his performance review, unless you're Andrew Glover?'"
Well said, it's becoming rather tedious and tiredsome. It might also help if you didn't have the odd pop which lessens your arguement. It's been explained and done to death the reasons why it's been introduced by those who have the knowledge and insight rather than 'but i've stood there for decades', which we all have. Will you still stand there when we play at NM?
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| Quote 60sCat="60sCat"I have never seen another club where there are so many "supporters" who want to complain about something or another. Perhaps its our lack of success over the years on the field but it really is demoralising and depressing. Its as though all they all get out of the wrong side of bed EVERY morning.'"
It is very depressing. Davide came on with good intentions of addressing supporter concerns, however has been subjected to personal abuse by so called fans.
I'm all for constructive criticism, but to say he's a "relic of the old regime" or whatever it was is out of order. It's a shame really, we could have had a good 2 way communication link to the club, but due to the personal attacks we'll now most likely deprived us of that.
Ironically the attacks performed by a minority who have spoiled things for the majority, wishing to complain about another minority doing the same!
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| Quote Fordy="Fordy"This ^^^
it seems that is going out of the window. That is much more upsetting to me than having to change where I stand, but I gues that is modern society for you.'"
Suppose the vitriol on this messageboard is another example of modern society.
Also, a bit like road rage, where people act completely different when surrounded by a protective bubble.
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| Quote 60sCat="60sCat"I have never seen another club where there are so many "supporters" who want to complain about something or another. Perhaps its our lack of success over the years on the field but it really is demoralising and depressing. Its as though all they all get out of the wrong side of bed EVERY morning.'"
I think some, myself included, want this club to be the very best it can be. It can't be perfect, nothing is, but it also can't help challenging them on issues as the lack of that led to the utter mess the old regime were on certain (not all) issues.
This forum is not the right medium to discuss issues directly with the club and/or it's employees, but a place to discuss the issues surrounding the club, on and off the pitch.
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| Quote violetrwb="violetrwb"snip
You may take them as personal, but they are not. '"
Although I respect your right to discuss this situation the same as the rest of us, your bit with Davide Longo certainly is personal. Criticising someone and their performance in their job in a public domain is very personal, and takes it even further when you keep it going when he asks you to talk in private.
It is detracting from your other points as I don't think you have one poster supporting you in the way you are treating Davide. Disrespectful at best.
And lets get this all in perspective. You wouldn't have heard anything about any of this before he took on the role. The communication at the club has its flaws there is no doubt but it is a quantum leap improvement from where it was before.
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