They didn't loan us SKY money two years in advance. Even if the RFL paid wages for 3 months of the season.. Baring in mind when Mr Khan bought us that would be nowhere near that amount of money. Unsure where you've got that from.

Of course not. Bradford Council still have the freehold of Odsal anyway and believe me many of Bradford's fans wernt happy with how everything was dealt with. I'm trying to point out that `RFL help` isnt always a good thing. It made finding a buyer more difficult and has left the new owner at a disadvantage.

Yes we have a new owner & everythings good but IMO If our previous chair admitted the problems initially with Odsal's leasehold intact the club/new owner would be in a better position now.

Yeah it would have been so much better without all that pesky RFL help!!!
I've never heard such disingenuous crap!!

Just for a minute I thought i'd pressed the Bulls forum by mistake !
There are 2 or 3 issues which still remain puzzling regarding the Bulls admin and re-forming

1, Why were the players not sold, whien it is usually the administrators duty to raise as much cash as possible to pay of the creditors, either in part or in full.

2, What exactly is the situation concerning advence monies and withheld monies from Sky and why would a sponsor be allowed to withhold any cash.

3, Finally, for the Bulls fans who actually think their club has been hard done by. Even with the RFL taking on the lease and this causing a subsequent problem with their security with the bank, there is no way in this world that the Bulls would have survived without the substantial help from the RFL and with this in mind, surely the RFL should be doing everything possible to ensure the survival of Salford along with any other club that falls into difficulty !

I meant if the RFL do what they did with Bradford and buy the lease to Salfords stadium... pay the wages for the rest of the season in advanced sky money and allow any debts to build up it may prove harder for Salford to find a buyer because a new owner would then need to pump more money into the club in the long run.

The above would be unlikely because we arent mid season anyway. Each situation is different.

The RFL helping Bradford was the only way for us to survive at the time but what im saying is in my opinion the old board should have made everyone aware of Bradfords debts sooner and then we wouldnt have been in the position where the RFL had to / wanted to buy the lease at Odsal and where SKY money had to be advanced because this has made things harder for our new owner.

I think the old board at Bradford delayed and delayed until we ended up in a mess.

I do think the RFL is partly to blame for every club that has got into financial difficulty since the licenses have been awarded. For the finances at Bradford not to have been noted when licenses were granted is unlikely. Very few clubs have broken even over the last few years & that needs to be looked at. Unfortunately the game is being run on quick sand at the moment and there's many clubs going through financial difficulties.

I know other forums suggest the SKY money from Bradford may have been put to better use going into some kind of `emergency fund` for clubs that are struggling. I hope that Salford get through the problem they have and that the fans there pull together and try and raise money ( but ensure it's safe and doesnt get swallowed up ) I know i will pledge to help them. I wouldnt want any club to get into that position.

If they hadn't been propped up with half a million quid of donations, they might have gone sooner.

For the record the RFL did not "Buy" the lease for Odsal, they took it in part payment for a £1.25m loan that still didn't manage to keep the club afloat (£700k of that loan related to outstanding monies from a previous loan which is effectively what the RFL valued the lease at) they then advanced the Bulls a further £550k to help them last them through closed season Dec 2011-Jan 2012, the £500k raised by fans cleared the directors liabilities and went nowhere to pay of any of the other debts, so all the Bulls fans did was help the numpties that put them in the mess. Without a shadow of doubt players should have been sold and the administrator was not independent and was clearly having his strings pulled, a 6 point deductions was more than fair as the club did not deserve their league position, as they were fielding a team they could not afford, which is what was causing the debt to increase weak in weak out

There is some coffee on the stove, may I suggest you wake up and smell it

In short bulls got help from rfl and other resources and so should salford.

I agree.. but maybe in a different way. Something should be set up to help clubs going into financial difficulties because its happening too often.

Yes i know, but when asked to help your club or they'll go bust it's hard not to. In hindsight maybe it would have been better for the money to go into the kitty for a possible new owner.

I think when a club's in financial difficulty it's hard not to help regardless of how you see the situation. Just like i will with Salford.

Perhaps if the Bulls withheld Sky money had been ring fenced for something more useful than the other clubs lining their own pockets the RFL could offer more support to Salford. Apparently all clubs have been informed that the RFL is unable to advance SL payments in 2013.