Talk about chips on shoulders! Must be a real effort to stand up carrying such a big weight around.

The above nonsense is riddled with contradiction. Home grown or Aussie import...which is it? At least we have the talent and the resources to make that choice!

Sam Backo was 27 when he signed for Leeds...hardly a 'clapped out' age for a prop, and that was over TWENTY years ago.
Since then Leeds have signed only two big Aussie props...Kylie Leuluai and Ben Cross, only one of whom was 'clapped out'.

As for Amor 'ticking the boxes', on the basis of what I've seen of Wakey this season he ticks most for me.

What chip, look in the mirror mate



If you were not so defensive you'd have read a back handed compliment in my post. This is a Wakefield forum so you wouldn't expect my post to be sugar coated or spare Leeds of a few digs would you - you over sensitive ninny. I'm actually saying that Amor simply isn't IMHO a Leeds type signing, I'm saying the expectation at Leeds is far higher than with us and Amor won't fit the bill IMO. Nothing to do with Amors ability as a player but his ability to shine in an environment like Leeds. That is why Leeds tend to go for named players or players who have come through the system, no contradiction or nonsense there. Amor is neither, I believe he was duel reg and then signed on a contract as a punt, which IMHO has been not been a huge success for Leeds.

It's a judgement call by the Leeds club and the player but on past experience I think and hope they will let Amor go. Now don't fall off that high horse will you!

It wasn't me who mentioned Pitts tbh, I'm aware of the back story on that one - however the actual poster was still right, it didn't end well.

Look at it from his point of view - go back to Leeds no guarantee of first team rugby and dependant on who they sign could be well down the order.Or - stay at Wakey guarantee first team action and things looking so good for the future.Know what I would do or advise a player to do but then again Im a Wakey fan so it dont take much working out.

how dare you come on here with your well constructed argument. be off with you.

although, i think (and hope) that vastman has a point - amor has gone about his job quietly and with efficiently in a lower placed team - that's not going to cause a big rush for season tickets at leeds.

Leeds have more players who came through the system because it's a better and bigger system than at other clubs, but as for only going for "name" players when looking outside you're completely wrong. If a Peacock or Buderus is available then they've sometimes gone in for them, but off the top of my head, Hetherington has also signed Poching, Dunemann, Pitts, Kirke, Hardaker, Delaney, Leuluai, Hauraki, Griffin, Moore, Lunt and so on, with varying success but with none of them being "named players" before they came. How does Leeds's latest signing, an Australian that everyone had to google to find out who he was, fit into your theory?

There is absolutely no suggestion that Amor isn't a Leeds-type signing because he isn't a big enough name. After all, Leeds signed him in the first place.

They signed him as a development project, he's developed, there's no reason they wouldn't want him back.

Still clinging onto others for cheap points aye Rhuby, nothing changes

IMHO = means In my honest opinion, which is what this forum represents despite the fact that some seem to think they actually know which always makes me laugh.

So I(your)HO you think the way you do and you believe it, but IMHO I don't. As stated, know your enemy and I've watched for years how Leeds work. Thus I think and admit hope (a lot) that my intuition is right on this.

As for the named players bit, this is where you totally undo your argument. Only a Leeds fans could be conceited (and I don't blame you) enough to suggest that any of these players were not named or much lorded players, especially Poching, Dunemann, Pitts(as an up and coming), Leuluai and Lunt - this shows what a splendid some Leeds fans live on and why Amor is probably best not visiting it. Most other clubs would be happy with any of those players as major signings (that is the back handed compliment you are missing in spectacular style by the way).

Poching not a named player is especially hillarious as when you signed him he was probably the hottest overseas player in SL

clearly you're upset at being handed your backside on a plate by a leeds fan, but that really shouldn't prevent you from understanding that i was actually agreeing with you.

who is this rhuby of whom you speak?

I'm not sying that those players were nobodies, but few of those named were rated any higher than Amor. The way you go on Leeds would only sign Peacock/Buderus level proven internationals. No doubt you'd have said, crossing your fingers, that Poching wasn't a Leeds "named player" signing at the time.

You obviously don't know how Leeds work, by the way, but, as a matter of interest how do Leeds's last six signings (Achurch, Griffin, Moore, Lunt, Hauraki, Cross) fit into your "humble" opinions, and which of them are more or less feted than Amor?

Maybe Amor will stay at Wakefield, but it won't be for the baseless reasons you've constructed out of thin air with your magical intuition.

While I'm here, could you give an example of a clapped-out big signing from a top club over the last 15 years? Only Jamie Peacock fits the bill as being both a big signing and being from (at the time) another top club (Gareth Ellis need not apply). Was he clapped-out or am I misremembering?

Would also like to see a chart comparing domestic and overseas front-rowers for Leeds and Wakefield over a similar time period that backs up Leeds signing Aussie props as "instinct".