we was truley out played by a better team but there is at least 12 teams in league better than us.andrew glover has done a great job at the club but crowds will start to dwindle while that muppet is coaching us action needs to be done we where better last season whith a on paper a lesser squad,

If you bring a bloke in from the start of the season on a hefty contract and then send him off to play champ rugby then you either have an issue with him or you are clueless.

Ellis is a quallity player and is better than Wood/Wildie but can't get a game.

He has obviously done something or can't/won't do something that the coach asks. There can be no other logical reason due to agars priority of having to pick the best side to win games. I doubt we'll ever find out, but I'd doubt it's a clash of personalities, you don't have to like someone to work with them

Agar has his favourites and always picks em,not interested in youth policy,or anybody else s signings [sorry mr elston fact under qualified and over payed 70k a year utter madness sort it out please!

Spot on.

Thought we were right up there with them for the first 20 minutes, even had them somewhat rattled at one stage. Couple of great hits from Aiton on Lauaki and Tomkins. Could have had a few more points in the first half with a bit more composure.

Second half was a case of being totally outclassed!

Wasn't it Raleigh that left Lauaki on the deck after a big hit?

I agree though - we were up in their faces in the first 20 and stifled a lot of their plays; conversely, we seemed to panic when the line was in sight and as a result, made some poor decisions or executed good decisions poorly.

The first 20 the players certainly let them know they were in a game then we stood off and watched them instead of keeping in their faces.The second half well did we come out it was a normal second half Wakey showing.The only time this season when we have been the better side in the second half was against Hull when they started to tire and then the doubts set in.

I think you're definately right that the team is under achieving from the names we have on paper but I think R.A. should have a second full season and if we are not 3/4 places higher than we are now then we'll need a change of coach. He got Aiton, Sykes, Cockayne, Washbrook etc so isn't that bad at recruitment he just needs to do it with the addition of two class props to lead what we've already got.

Some said we didn't need Sykes and were proved wrong. L.Smith has been pure class in the past and is still only 25. If he settles in and wants to stay with WTW & the promise/security of a 3 year contract to see in NM then it will be shrewd business by Agar and more strength in the centre position.