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Quote: Trinity Till Death "It'll be a positive move for all parties and loans or dual registration is something we as a club have considerably under used. The only disappointment is that we didn't do it sooner in the season!

This is the way to develop our youngsters in the future, lets just hope for the sake of lads like Wildie, Davey etc it isn't too late for them'"


Whilst I agree with dual reg in order to develop our younger players so long as it is with the corret club (championship club), can I just put forward an objective viewpoint to get other opinions;

Will this in time see the end of reserve grade rugby?

For me the reserve grade competition is tough and competative and which is rumoured to be going from 20's to 23's if not already done so. If so it will enable senior players coming back through poor performance or injury to play in this competition making it more competative and giving younger players the chance to cut their teeth against quality opposition in hopefully a much more intense competition.

With this in mind and if we keep sending all our fringe based players on dual reg at the same time, is it fair to say we could be weakening our reserves where I believe that in any team you need stronger players around you if you hope to develop the team and the other individuals within it.

Do Wakefield have enough strength in depth to bring the 18's through so early? If we don't take our reserve team seriously then how how do we develop as a whole (club, team & individual).

So I pose the question, could it be said that if we send all our fringe 1st teamers out on dual reg in order to get this experience we will weaken the reserve grade and possibly do more harm than good to other players coming through who might just need that bit of guidance, support and camaraderie on the playing field from a senior player?

It's only a thought, icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: seal "I would say that you have seen a rotation of the fringe players going out on dual reg/ loan. So far, in the 3-4 months of super league this year, we have seen

Wonder what would happpen if all the fringe 1st teamers were sent out on dual reg, where Wakefield used the Championship sides as feeder clubs with an agreement they could be called back at anytime, this way they would be testing them out, giving them experience and seeing if they can cope at that level before being drafted up. The reserves would then become a stepping stone towards the feeder clubs and the 18's to the reserves eusa_think.gif

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Quote: William13 "Wonder what would happpen if all the fringe 1st teamers were sent out on dual reg, where Wakefield used the Championship sides as feeder clubs with an agreement they could be called back at anytime, this way they would be testing them out, giving them experience and seeing if they can cope at that level before being drafted up. The reserves would then become a stepping stone towards the feeder clubs and the 18's to the reserves
Which team would you pick?

JK offers good coaching at Batley, JD seems the same - don't know much about the Donny guy. The only problem is that you will get players coached only one way if it's only one team - which means you'd need a coach coaching from the same book as Agar. If not I see an issue with players returning and not wanting to play the Agar way. Where as the way it is now I see it as a mix of ideas and attitudes on return.

Not saying it's a bad idea, just not sure how to work it.

For me the need for a competitive and viable second grade is paramount for our game and is the difference between us and the NRL - some players take time and we have no real mechanism to give them that time.

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Quote: vastman "Which team would you pick?'"


Dewsbury/ Batley/ Keighley/ Hunslet/ Doncaster/ Sheffield

I think It would be worthwhile to set up a relationship with a local club in lower divisions who arent necessarily going to get promoted to super league whereby fringe players are put on to dual reg contracts in order to ensure game time weekly. This would allow the lower league team to improve the quality of their squad whilst at the same time serving our purpose by giving them more game time to work on things. A sort of feeder club if you will...

You could send them a couple of promising youngsters (players like Danny Cowling or Matty Wildie for example) on a season long loan so that both the player and club have some stability, and then have a few more fringe players on dual reg.

However, the club need to be playing at a higher level than the reserves and need to be competitive, Its no use sending them to a team thats going to get smashed every week.

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Quote: seal "Dewsbury/ Batley/ Keighley/ Hunslet/ Doncaster/ Sheffield

I think It would be worthwhile to set up a relationship with a local club in lower divisions who arent necessarily going to get promoted to super league whereby fringe players are put on to dual reg contracts in order to ensure game time weekly. This would allow the lower league team to improve the quality of their squad whilst at the same time serving our purpose by giving them more game time to work on things. A sort of feeder club if you will...

You could send them a couple of promising youngsters (players like Danny Cowling or Matty Wildie for example) on a season long loan so that both the player and club have some stability, and then have a few more fringe players on dual reg.

However, the club need to be playing at a higher level than the reserves and need to be competitive, Its no use sending them to a team thats going to get smashed every week.'"


Think I've misunderstood the post - I assumed William meant one club as a feeder club - if he doesn't mean that I'm not sure what the difference is with what we do now or am I missing something icon_confused.gif

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Quote: vastman "Think I've misunderstood the post - I assumed William meant one club as a feeder club - if he doesn't mean that I'm not sure what the difference is with what we do now or am I missing something
To be quite honest Vastman I hadn't really thought it through icon_beat.gif I was just putting the idea out there. I believe they do something like this in Oz. Following the Queensland cup, I have read about players who play in this league and are from clubs in the NRL, so it got me thinking.

Maybe choosing a few clubs in the championship would allow us to get all the fringe 1st team players out on dual reg and prepare them for a call up when and if needed, but as I posted earlier this could be detremental to the development of the younger players left in the reserves.

At the moment in my opinion, and without wanting to be disrespectful to championship 1, sending the players to play in this league is no better than leaving them in the reserves as I don't believe all the sides are competitive enough.

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