I can not believe AG gave Mr Agar a 3yr deal without it been performance related. that would be financial suicide.

Get rid of this over rated clown NOW.

We have a fantastic squad of players but no one to coach them.

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How the hell do you coach rugby out of someone. What an idiotic statement.

Are we seriously saying that we think Agar is coaching them to not catch the ball?
Seriously?

And the reason he keeps playing the same team is because the biggest issue is they are new to each other and need time. Won't help if you just keep changing the team.
I'm all for changes, but not for the sake of it.

I've kept out of this so far as I'm sure the very last thing anyone wants is Hull fans coming on here saying 'we told you so' and TBH you've had more than enough of them in any case. However, a couple of posts on here have been so eerily familiar that I felt compelled to comment.

Your arguments above are identical to those used by many Hull fans - myself included - who defended Agar during his early months at our club. When the exact same things happen at two different clubs you have to ask yourself where the common factor is.

Under Agar we showed the [iexact same[/i weaknesses and issues that you are now. Poor basic skills, poor defence, inexplicable interchanges, the same under-performing players picked week after week, etc. I'm afraid that this is down to his coaching.

Unlike a lot of Hull fans I hold no personal dislike of Agar (although I came close during the last few months of his reign) but I believe him to be a decent bloke promoted beyond his ability. He's a good assistant but hopeless as head coach.

Touchy???
Idiotic?, given the bile we had endure watching during his time in charge its hardly idiotic.
Just like kosh I was willing to give him his chance. All we ever got was 'wait til e builds his own team', and we have had some decent players who imo haven't played to the best of there ability.
AND imo it did feel like he had managed to coach it out of them.
No plan b, boring rugby that other teams didn't need to take much to figure out..
'Right lads they will go up the middle with a very poor kick on the last'.
Treated the young ones like and blamed players (ie sharp) for his bad gameplans.
I can still remember the relief when it was announced he was leaving and imo again it seems like it hasn't taking long for some of your own fans to start seeing his worthlessness.
For your sake tho I hope I'm wrong.

Last season with a team of young lads, cast offs and has beens. Kear achieved 7 wins 4 against sides that made the play offs. If Agar achieves the same with double the wage bill is that progress?

The team are not bad players if we went bust everyone of them would get a sl contract, they are just coached badly. My view is that Agar is not the man for the job regardless of how many games played.

He seems to have no real charisma. Which is a must for a derby game !

Agar is on a 3 year contract.

He should be given another 6 games to turn it around and show what coaching ability he has got regardless of Hull FC fans input, that was a different set up.

If the poor performances continue after the end of this period then he must go.

Absolutely and unequivocally not the case.

You know this how? Are you seriously suggesting that the likes of Aiton, Collis and southern have come over for chicken feed? And the rest are on the same as last years squad?

We are spending around 50% more though are we not? Still a very sizeable increase.

I'll say the same as I did when he came, see where we are at the end of the season and take a look at the losses, tactics, style of play and how he's used the youth during the year, as any of them improved etc and take it from there. At the moment this is all a complete knee jerk reaction imo, it's only 2 games ago most thought there was genuine improvements.