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Oh sorry I forgot that the BFI are made up of ex members of the RFL and Film 4 are just the Dewsbury Rams BoD's moonlighting.

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Quote: dboy "It's a dead end story of desperation, futility, of being a pawn, of class of have's and have not's.

Whatever Machin did, his future was written. I don't think we were ever meant to like him.

It is not meant to represent Rugby League or Wakefield Trinity, but the bleak life of a worthless man (trying to use sport to break those chains), in a Northern industrial town.

It's a black film, meant to portray black times. This it does (to standards recognised by the Academy Awards nominations).

It seems it's not jolly/uplifting/Hollywoodised enough for some on here...but if it was, it wouldn't be "This Sporting Life".'"


It does this brilliantly for me with Harris perfectly suited with the brooding intensity he brings to the part he plays.

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Quote: gastric band "It does this brilliantly for me with Harris perfectly suited with the brooding intensity he brings to the part he plays.'"


And this is where it falls down for me. Machin doesn't have to be likeable, you don't need to empathise with him either, but Harris' portrayal is just too one-dimensional for me. I've read the critics' comments about the tension in every scene and that, but it lost its effect for me half way through the film, and I just ended up stifling the yawns.

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I understand why people don't like it.
It’s ok not to like it; it’s an opinion after all.
My nephew thinks Field of Dreams is rubbish...it would be in my top 10...that's just how it is.

The black kitchen sink dramas of the time are not easy watching.
Wasn't that easy back then never mind now.

The difference for this argument is when you judge the film, are you judging the type of film, or the quality of it against others of its type.
It obviously has qualities, otherwise it wouldn't have won any awards, but is it better than the likes of Saturday Night Sunday Morning or Look Back in Anger, or even How Green Was My Valley? In my opinion no, but equally with the exception of HGWMV, I'm not that keen on any of them.

What it is to me however, is a monument.
It is firstly an indication of what the times were like in that era for working class in the north. Life's changed since then of course but you can look back without looking down on it.
The important monument for me though is seeing my father's heroes (and mine of course) and seeing Wakefield Trinity players and Belle Vue in its pomp of 1963. That surpasses the quality of the film and will make it a monument worth visiting every now and again.

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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



Quote: vastman "Maybe but the story doesn't really grab me - Harris though puts in a very menacing performance as Machin - Roberts frankly over does the misery for me.

Very few sports related films have ever really hit the mark, Raging Bull and the first Rocky probably the best - can't think of any team sports although there was an Aussie Rules one from the late 70's that was ok.

Each to their own.'"

What I notice about films of that period is that the main stars neve seem t get the regional northern accents right.I t was only the bit part players who got the west riding accent correct

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