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There's always using Linux on a PC. Works for some, but not for others.

Mine's quick and pretty and all the software's free. Doesn't slow down over time and does what I need.

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Quote: djcool "I didnt say apple invented the mouse did I?'"


I didn't say you did - just something I remembered from the a recent documentary about Jobs.

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Apple should really be congratulated for making a complete product. I mean, no one says that Samsung make rubbish televisions because you can't replace the valves with different ones (or whatever).

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Quote: vastman "Basically you get what you pay for. Macs last. I run a e-mac at home, it is 10 years old and has never been upgraded hardware wise. It was also a bottom of the range Mac when I bought it. Yet it happily runs Leopard and will I believe run Lion. I doubt any standard untouched PC of similar vintage will run the latest Windows to a good standard. In fact I doubt many PC's of that age are still working or if they are they are like Triggers broom. We actually have a Mac at work that ran for nearly 3 years of heavy use without ever needing to be re-booted, says it all to me.'"


What do you reckon the working life of the hardware is?
I may have the chance to buy 2nd hand from the company that the wife works for. We've had pcs for about the last 20 years, and have replaced them every 7 years or so. Since she got a mac from work, she's been a complete pain... disassociated herself entirely from what used to be [iour[/i, but is now [imy[/i pc, except when she needs to use software she doesn't have installed on the mac. Then she bitches for ages about how slow the thing is. I have nothing against macs, but I'm developing something against mac users (or one user in particular)...

Our/my pc needs replacing... struggles to boot, sounds like an aircraft before take-off, and has so many work-arounds that one day soon, it'll give up the ghost. I won't admit it to her, but I can't deny the facts. If I buy a mac that's, say, 4 years old, how many years' use do you reckon I could get out of it? (I only need it for basic stuff, btw - word processing, spreadsheets, and internet.)

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What do you reckon the working life of the hardware is?
I If I buy a mac that's, say, 4 years old, how many years' use do you reckon I could get out of it? (I only need it for basic stuff, btw - word processing, spreadsheets, and internet.)'"


Impossible to say. I've got a a PC still going strong after 10 years (as you may guess it does have its limitations!!!) and I bought another that gave up the ghost after 2 weeks (since fixing it has not missed a beat). If components are going to fail then they tend to fail in the first few weeks. Provided it's not been mistreated a second hand one from work should be no trouble - just remember that the specs will be 4 years old or more so may have difficulty with some of the latest software but I don't think that will be problem from the sound of it.

I'm writing this on an 8 year old laptop my wife got from her job when she left for the princley sum of £1. It got a bit slow in Windows so it's now runing Ubuntu Linux and Open Office (it's free and legal icon_biggrin.gif ) and is used for web browsing, bits of word processing etc. and it boots up faster than any of the newer PC's!

If it's at a good (or even silly price as some work PC's are) I'd go for it.

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Quote: RebelRebel "Our/my pc needs replacing... struggles to boot, sounds like an aircraft before take-off'"


Take the case off and get the Dyson in there - often, they make noises like that due to a build-up of dust on and around the fans.

Also, consider flattening the HDD and starting again - that can help.

Alternatively, get the Mac and become one of the cool kids!

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