Guys I have to say some of us comparing the 2 situations of trin and northern (sorry cant help being a traditionalist) seems to be convieniently ignoring a number a salient factors. Firstly in the latter days of the richardson era we were not run with sufficiently sound business practices to justify any one with finance investing in us. Our present owner could have done so at the time but chose not to - as indeed would I had I the money. Secondly BV was not owned by a cashg strapped public body under pressure to cut, sell assets and make people redundant.

The RL higher ups would rightly have been pilloried had thery thrown money at Trin in the latter days of the richardson era, and it would not have been in the long term best interests of the club.

I struggle however to buy the notion that developers were on the Odsall horizon - why there but no where else in the country? If they are however I would be concerned as a Northern supporter. My landlord is my boss, my boss is trying to reduce the number of clubs in the top flight close to other clubs in the top flight. My boss has the right to get rid of me if I can't operate financially well. The higher ups in my club are struggling with raising operating capital. There are potential buyers on the horizon looking to builkd on the land I tennant.

I'd like to see a bit more good grace offered to our friends at Odsall - irrespective of the circumstances fans are fans and they are not to blame for the failure of their club higher ups.

Iconic for sure. At least as much as Odsal. More so than Keighley, and the RFL took over the head lease on THEIR ground (so its not just Odsal). But you chairman sold Belle Vue though, so the option to "do a Keighley" was seemingly not open to the RFL? And you could hardly say it was right on the motorway and was a huge site with lots of room for development, if you were looking anyway at them to "do an Odsal"?

I still maintain...the odsal situation was unique, hence the unique solution. Would I have acknowledged that had I not been a Bulls supporter? im really don't know. I guess if I was as bitter with the way things had turned out as I was over Leeds and Harrisgate, then objective consideration would have been nigh-on impossible.

Nah. But he DID talk a bit about people who refuse to admit anyone else with a differing POV may actually have a point, and instead resort to derision because - deep down - they would prefer not to hear.

I bet he didn't.

In the final analysis, the Bulls and the RFL know that this bail-out is completely unfair and has handed an advantage to one member club that hasn't been afforded to the others. They know that because it's blatantly and categorically the case, so in an attempt to mitigate the criticism and negative publicity it would garner, they've issued a series of insultingly vague and possibly dishonest press releases.

Your constant repetition of the spin doesn't make it any more plausible I'm afraid, though I do admire your stamina; I'd probably do the same for my club although given the strength of feeling, I'd probably avoid gloating about it in my message board sig.

[despair mode]Of course he didn't... [/despair mode]

The sig is not gloating; its rueful. From being (supposedly) masters of our own destiny when we returned to Odsal, to being a mere tenant of the RFL now and likely the butt of jokes (and worse) about that for the foreseeable future. Just another manifestation of how far we have fallen. It'll not be there for long; its bad enough knowing what it seems we had to do, without having to read it every day. I do, honestly, think the RFL will be seen to have done pretty well out of this when the history books come to be written.

thought I'd change my avavtar and sig. Just for you guys on here! Enjoy the new season and kee p up the banter! It's what makes our sport great!