Have to say that is a massive issue - they are both poor especially Stevo who is way past it on all levels. There is no middle ground with these two, they are either gushing like teenage girls or like bitter old men where the Coach is always furious for the most minor of errors.

My problem with them is the constant use of a small amount of stock phrases, over and over again.

The coach will always, for example be 'furious' and will have to 'get the message out there.' The game is always between two 'outfits', both of which are full of 'big fellas' and 'little halfbacks'. When they score a try, they'll say 'thank you very much' and when there's a big hit, they 'won't miss'. At some point, it'll be time to 'try something different', usually a 'chip over the top' or to 'utilise the skill factor'. It will always be the 'second stanza' and the 'merry whistle blower' will have some infuence on the outcome.

It's like listening to a fricking computer game - I agree, time for a change; Mr Carney to replace Wiggy, with a bunfight between Barry Mac, Jon Wells and JD for the Stevo job.

Don't forget, they've got to get the link going and WELLENS BACK ON THE INSIDE

Yep thats guy!!

Ha ! Excellent. I left the UK in 2002 and was already fed up with Stevo and his "chip over the top". Clearly he is still recommending it some 9 years later. There is some good commentary on games in the NRL (Peter Sterling is particularly good) but, inevitably, you still hear the same old phrases over again like -

How important the "first six after points" is
Both sides getting through their sets
Anything of poor quality being "a bit ordinary"
A team being "led around the paddock" by a certain player
etc

I guess if you have been commentating for years about games where essentially the same things happen every week its easy to start repeating yourself.