because he will never be a super league player you have two good young players in wildie and hyde play them they will be better options

It is about building up playing relationships with others, the coach putting across his ideas, other players learning how he likes to play, him learning their preferences too. Creating playing structures isn't easy mid-season when you have a Sunday to Friday turn around, especially when there are other players in and out of the side due to injuries, form etc...

One thing that is key is getting a player/s who can organise defence as much/more than as anything in attack. Twenty points yesterday 'could' have been enough to win that game had we not conceded so many soft tries due to our lack of a sliding defence, the inability to close down overlaps two or three plays ahead of the try being scored. Catalans love to hug the touchline with their Wingers, and we weren't savvy enough to learn that throughout the game.

It is one thing us blaming the ref for his inability to control a game, but the ref didn't let in any tries - even if some seemed like forward passes. That is always going to be the case, some for us, some against us. No conspiracy.

A loud vocal full back in the style of Wellens, an organising half back like Briers or Brough, those are the values in which we need to emulate - players who can get the others forming an effective defensive line, and not bunching up ineffectively. Now I know those players aren't available, but the knowledge is in the game to get players developed to be able to control and organise a team's defensive line.

Agree Wildie and Hyde will be good players in time, Moore has played a larger amount of games at a higher level than both of them, we need a leader on the pitch, and Moore has the attitude to do that , he reminds me of Brough in many ways, and it will also improve and allow players like Wildie and Hyde to learn off the likes of Lee when he adopts his natural position, Moore is a natural SH, Lee is a natural Hooker like Wildie

Indeed there appears to be no structures to learn. No depth to the attack and standing starts for the props meaning little yardage gained.

The players have bust a gut for the side, but tactically I think they are being let down. They are having to work so hard for every little inch it's no surprise they look knackered towards the end of the game.

Either its a deliberate ploy to play one man rugby or JK doesn't think the present players are capable anything else.

It does seem that a number of us on the terraces can see these glaringly obvious things week in week out but nothing seems to change. IMO that is down to the coaching staff. Players running on to the ball from deep and support options are basics of the game and should be able to be adopted by anyone.

Catalans may had had Dureau yesterday, but all their players were playing at a different speed to us, running on to the ball and creating space for other players and then exploiting the gaps. These are things that we could do even without a creative half and against the lesser sides it would certainly create more breaks and scoring opportunities and would even give the better sides something to think about.

Everything we do is far too slow and esay to read. Again this is for the coaching staff to address.

I would agree that the players we have are not capable of playing an expansive style of rugby. As hard as Tommy Lee is trying, he doesn't have that creative spark we are crying out for. Moore may be the answer, but until we find out I think one man rugby is our strongest option.

By playing a deeper line they have greater option of playing more expansively than a shallow attack. It creates space, it gives players running the ball in to have more impact through their speed over the gain line.

Does anyone know why this poster 'Hunger' =#FF0000EDIT has an issue with Moore ?

=#FF0000Did he ask you to post his name and postion on RLFANS.


Thought not.


BIGAL1

Shouldn't take long to learn 5 drives with a couple of inside balls and a kick.

why are you defending someone who's job it is showing young players a pathway through to Super League and someone in his position is on here slating a young player just making it through ?

I'm not defending him, i'm defending the right to post under a user name and remain anonymous.

I don't know what the "beef" is and quite frankly don't care.

AUP 2.1 * Where a user wishes to keep their identity private this should be respected.