FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Playing the same tactics...
46 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach19No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2011Jun 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I've just had a quick check of the rules and the referees only instructions at the tackle are "play" or "held". It seems another of Cummings nonsensical inventions that referees are shouting "surrender" and "dominant" allowing extra time for defending teams to set their defence.

The game has always been simple. As soon as the tackle is completed the defenders must immediately clear the ruck. Why can this have any other interpretation. Lets get back to basics and outlaw this wrestling after the tackle is completed. The referees should stick to the rules or re-write the rulebook. The same applies to forward passes!!

The laws are there to be applied by the referees, not interpreted.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach909No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2013Oct 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
34860_1297775760.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34860.jpg



Quote: jonh "...If Wigan are doing it and not getting penalised for it then they are acting within the laws of the game.'"


My point exactly, so when are Wakey gonna wise up? When will we adopt tactics that are proving successful? We still would not have beaten Wigan the other day, but I just cannot see other than raw enthusiasm and playing out of our skins what we are doing to tactically narrow the gap with the better sides.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13798
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
29100_1291104497.jpg
1/10:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29100.jpg



Quote: RichieWarlord "but I just cannot see other than raw enthusiasm and playing out of our skins what we are doing to tactically narrow the gap with the better sides.'"

As much as i'm enjoying watching these lads play their heart out, I too am yet to see any sort of worked move when attacking. I know the club don't have the players who can create but with no planned attacking moves it makes Trinity's attack so predictable the teams like Wigan are not left guessing as to what play Trinity are going to use.

The telegraphed halfd inside ball has got to stop. It's a waste of a tackle.

A few years back I recall Kear making referance to his prefered the off the cuff style of play and thats Ok when there is a Danny Brough directing play. Doesn't really help when you've got Lee, Jeffries and Hyde as the generals. I'm wondering if a change in ethos and planned attacks would reward Trinity for all the hardwork they put into games rather than being left in a situation where they've scored 1 try or less in 80% of their home games.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner20426No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
5733_1599791508.jpeg
Unofficially the most boring poster on Cherry and White.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_5733.jpeg



Quote: Khlav Kalash "As much as i'm enjoying watching these lads play their heart out, I too am yet to see any sort of worked move when attacking. I know the club don't have the players who can create but with no planned attacking moves it makes Trinity's attack so predictable the teams like Wigan are not left guessing as to what play Trinity are going to use.

The telegraphed halfd inside ball has got to stop. It's a waste of a tackle.

A few years back I recall Kear making referance to his prefered the off the cuff style of play and thats Ok when there is a Danny Brough directing play. Doesn't really help when you've got Lee, Jeffries and Hyde as the generals. I'm wondering if a change in ethos and planned attacks would reward Trinity for all the hardwork they put into games rather than being left in a situation where they've scored 1 try or less in 80% of their home games.'"



Brian Noble was always a big fan of play what you see rather than employing a rigid structure that Maguire has adopted at Wigan. Defences are becoming too disciplined normally for the off the cuff stuff. Try scoring plays start 3 or 4 tackles in advance to the ball being put down with coaches like Maguire and Symmons they are structured to pull the defensive line out of shape and put certain players where they need to.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13798
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
29100_1291104497.jpg
1/10:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29100.jpg



Quote: jonh "Brian Noble was always a big fan of play what you see rather than employing a rigid structure that Maguire has adopted at Wigan. Defences are becoming too disciplined normally for the off the cuff stuff. Try scoring plays start 3 or 4 tackles in advance to the ball being put down with coaches like Maguire and Symmons they are structured to pull the defensive line out of shape and put certain players where they need to.'"

... and that is something Trinity just do not do. They rely on a slip up or a missed tackle. Once they're through they generally finish it off due to the pace at the club but when up against a well drilled outfit they tend to come up blank.

RankPostsTeam
International Star312No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023May 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Also - referees, linesman and all the other men in black (or pink/green etc) are so obviously fellas who have never taken part in a rugby game - well maybe at school where all the school thugs will have trampled all over them - and although they might know the rule book they do not know any of the real shenanighans that go on. Quite sure they are briefed about underhand tactics that have been going on for weeks/months/years but they have no real idea of what is really going on - either on the pitch or in the crafty mind that is a clever rugby player! Quite often of course they are blowing up for innocuous penalties that the majority of us have not got a clue what they are for, making themselves look very clever and efficient - and then of course missing the blatant proffesional cheating.

46 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
46 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.318359375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Accounts
Miserybusine
133
29m
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
37m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40737
39m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63226
40m
Film game
Boss Hog
5644
42m
2024
imwakefieldt
6
Recent
2025 KIT Thread
dddooommm
3
Recent
Salford
TF and the w
13
Recent
New Players
Halfdan of t
138
Recent
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
199
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
46s
Pre Season - 2025
RockNRolla
184
1m
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
1m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
1m
Noah Booth out on loan
Trin e ti
21
1m
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
1m
Salford
TF and the w
13
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63226
1m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
2m
2024
imwakefieldt
6
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40737
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
imwakefieldt
6
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
TF and the w
13
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trin e ti
21
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
542
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
537
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1279
England's Women Demolish The W..
1107
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1349
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1136
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1405
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1939
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2153
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2395
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1963
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2201
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2666
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2097
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2170
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M +12,144 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Accounts
Miserybusine
133
29m
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
37m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40737
39m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63226
40m
Film game
Boss Hog
5644
42m
2024
imwakefieldt
6
Recent
2025 KIT Thread
dddooommm
3
Recent
Salford
TF and the w
13
Recent
New Players
Halfdan of t
138
Recent
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
199
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
46s
Pre Season - 2025
RockNRolla
184
1m
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
1m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
1m
Noah Booth out on loan
Trin e ti
21
1m
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
1m
Salford
TF and the w
13
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63226
1m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
2m
2024
imwakefieldt
6
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40737
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
imwakefieldt
6
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
TF and the w
13
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trin e ti
21
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
542
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
537
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1279
England's Women Demolish The W..
1107
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1349
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1136
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1405
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1939
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2153
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2395
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1963
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2201
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2666
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2097
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2170


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!