and here it goes

for whats its worth i think cas are a different outfit with danny orr there now, he seems to have freed rangi chase to control things. pack aint too bad now and good to see local talent comming thru, so as much as it pains me to say good on them, i hope we both in super league next year i love the derby matches esp good friday ones, long may they continue

One of the sad facts of franchising has been that club's are in a cage fight with each other - look at this thread. What happened to the family game? It's still a family game within an individual club, but club's are left fighting each other and reduced to bickering.
Shame really as we were doing well selling the game as a family friendly sport, which those outside the game may still perceive. Inside, the true supporters no different and they are the backbone to the future.

Just on the bickering point, I'm not sure Wigan or Warrington would agree that Catalans were 'easy'. Dureau is exceptional - watch this space. (Seems like another Dobson at HKR?) Give the neighbours some credit for their on-field. They're doing what's in front of them and that's all they can do.Wish Cat's could get a roll and the whole area would be a lot happier at the end of July. It's difficult for the RFL to turf anyone out if they're top 6ish. But hey, the RFL could conspire to achieve any goal they want.
We need each other, but that gets lost in petty rivalries. Best of luck to both today.

Good point slugger I firmly believe if we are given the chance to stay in SL we will become a strong outfit Mr Glover is not affraid to splash the cash and the fans have a new empitas to come to the games now Ted as gone. We still have 1 of the best coaches in the game. We could be up there in a few years especially with 1 of the best youth developments in the game..

Doesn't the Huddersfield experience disprove the franchise theory.

For many years they were bottom of the league and didn't get relegated because they played at McAlpine.

Once they were relegated they came back stronger than ever with massive funding from Ken Davy.

It wasn't the guaranteed Super League position that was the making of Huddersfield, it was she opportunity to regroup under a strong financial suport.