And if this was the case then whats the problem??!!!

I apologise. I was referring to the other fans stating that it was 'unstable', when in fact, I don't think that other developments would have been built on that hillside had it been deemed that.

Our intent is to secure a licence by submitting the best application possible. We're going to need full PP anyway and by submitting it now demonstrates we're committed to a new stadium at GH. Once that has been given the green light (fingers crossed) it may also encourage sponsors and local businesses to come onboard and could open up new, invaluable funding streams.

It may of seemed viable at some stage in the past, pre recession just like Thornes Park was viable back then. Having obviously failed to deliver the funding Cas are now backed in a corner. Admit its a no go and risk not getting a franchise or keep the façade for the purpose off the franchise, it's a no brainer really. When the prise is 3 more years breathing space to re group and work out a way forward. Considering the what's at stake £200k is an investment well worth making.

Oh FFS I don't usually bother getting involved with the dick measuring contests on either clubs forums regards each ones stadium , but reading the numerous repeated threads, banging on with the same bile, conjecture, guess work and pure made up bull from both sets of fans has driven me to write this one and only time on the matter.

I remember a time when we use to argue about on field matters and even have a decent bit of banter over it. But now all I ever read is about your stadium is this and yours is that and it's doing my nut in !

I don't profess to know anything about the new stadiums of each club or know a man who knows a fella that goes out with a woman who overheard a conversation blah blah blah.

But what I do know is that as it stands neither club is going to be moving into a shiny new stadium any time soon. I also know that Cas will be playing at the Probiz for the forseeable future and Wakey will be playing at the RSS to at least the end of this season.

I also know that next week we will all know who is coming up from the championship (Widnes !) but we will have to wait another 4 months to find out who they are replacing.

One final thing I know is that whoever gets dropped is out of the hands of the fans no matter what we all do in the interim as I'm pretty certain that decision has probably already been taken by the powers that be.

Now I do not want it to be my club that goes and wakey fans do not want it to be there's. I think that the loss of either will be a massive loss to SL and will also weaken the competition. I want the derbies to continue and the fantastic production line of talent that comes thru from the respective clubs areas to continue to flourish isn't that what franchising was suppose to be about as well as nice bogs !

I fear that if either club goes then over time this will diminish as community work will be cut thus leading to loss of interest from local kids who will turn their talents to another sport.

Now I'm sorry to bang on for so long and I won't keep you much longer but I'd just like to say good luck to Wakey for the rest of the season I hope that both our great clubs can be in the playoffs and have a decent cup run to really give the authorities something to think about as I'm pretty certain there's several other clubs in SL that do not bring as much to the competition as we both do.

Finally, congratulations to the RFL for bringing this great game to this where the friendly banter that once existed has turned to animosity and spite, you must be so proud !

Rant over.

Post of the year Mr WallTiger!

Well thought out sensible post and the views of most fans, well done you've broken the mould, it won't catch on mate but nice try.

Well put, I agree with most of what you say but this is a forum and people will discuss all sorts of Rugby League & Wakefield Trinity topics, some do it in a rather grown up and sensible manner.

I also discuss things like the Governments financial cuts, what's happening in Libya and lots of other things I can do little or nothing about!

Good post. RFL must be really proud getting rival fans falling out over franchising instead of talking about the finer points of our game.

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I've heard of all of Wakefield's failings, and this isn't them-v-us, because I think we are down regardless, but I think we are entitled to be sceptical of RW's constant PR about how the ground is about to happen, because it was going to be built early in the summer of 2006, and at that point they had been working on it "for some time". Can any Castleford fan really say that they are any further on than they were five years ago, because five years ago they were four months from building it (the article in February 2006 quotes "early summer"). They are much more than that now.

As I've stated elsewhere, if Cas are able to build their own stadium, well done to them. They will have done it under their own steam. Also, us going down, if we do, is because of what we did or didn't do, not because of what Cas might do. My only gripe would be if the RFL decide that it is purely us or them, and the deciding factor is the spin and waffle of RW, because when you examine it more closely, they are further away from a new ground now than they were in 2006, when four months seems to have been the starting point back then.

It all boils down to who the RFL want to believe.

How do you get that then? 4 years ago there were no plans and no planning permission - now the plans are drawn up and there to be seen by everyone and FPP is being seen on the 7th of April. So you're "much closer examination" hasn't really come out well has it?

As for spin & waffle - how can you exactly build a stadium during a GLOBAL recession with NO public money going into the build? Exactly, there have been delays just like thousands of building projects in this country alone, it's not Wrights fault is it? all he's doing is keeping everyone up to date in a positive way, just like a chairman should, he's put the facts out there that there is delays and that the club believes it wont affect a franchise because there are other criteria which Cas rate VERY highly in. It's really not all about stadiums at all, it's just Sky banging on about it all the time has left peoples judgements clouded - how about commercial, financial, contribution to the competition and junior development?

The bottom line is, on the whole the RFL have gone about franchising in completely the wrong way - giving teams 3 years to do something is really not fair, or right. The way franchising is SUPPOSED to work is how it is with American sports and the NRL, you keep your core teams together and then add WHEN the league can support new teams, not every 3 years for the sake of it, it leaves it too open for bias & prejudiced opinions when it comes to decision making. The only fair thing to do would be keep the same 14 teams, leave the league as it is until everyone is settled and the league is ready for growth then add 2 more teams and get rid of the every 3 years rubbish.



Not really, lets add in some other factors using the RFLs stupid idea: Financial - 2 clubs have entered administration during the franchise period, that shows just how well the idea works, doesn't it? straight away them 2 clubs should be the favourites to go down, junior development there are plenty of teams with junior development not half as good as what Cas & Wakey have, and commercial - well Cas have the current commercial manager of the year in Craig Poskitt so at the minute Cas have the best commercial setup in the league. Using all the factors, Cas should comfortably get a franchise and stadiums are only a SMALL PART of the whole deal, it's just Sky who have blown it out of proportion.

If you want to base it on poor stadia, lets throw in Bradford & KR, terrible places to watch Rugby.