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Prior to the start of last season I posted on here with regards a friend in South Wales stating the RL thing had little of interest with all the RU goings on at Magners League and International level with the general sporting public.

I got crucified on here just posting that simple thought from a local,Since then club failed in South Wales and is now struggling in North Wales which in my view am not bothered as my club is WTW.

After watching last nights game I see that the RL want expansion(which I firstly thought was fine) but again where are the Welsh names in the team,They are still a team full of Antipodeans and with 2/3 still more awaiting visas how in the world does this strengthen the home nations squads.

Again i'm just stating realism and facts not elaborating rumours etc.

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never got in to an argument with you numpty, it would give me headache thinking down to your mental capacity.

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Quote: headhunter "For the umpteenth time, I am not a Crusaders fan. The club obviously has a business plan of some sort, I personally have no interest in it because it doesn't concern me at all, just as it doesn't concern you. If the home attendances aren't good enough to survive then the club will go bust, I don't understand why you are getting so wound up about the fact that they are not. The club weren't 'fast tracked', they were in the NL1 final in the year that they were promoted and so would have gone up even with automatic promotion and relegation. The club that year also had one of the highest average crowds in that league, they averaged more than Leigh. I would like to know how you feel Wakefield are performing '100% better' than Crusaders. Last year Wakefield's average crowd was only 1,300 higher than Crusaders' even with the games in Neath included. The club is far weaker on the field, has far poorer facilities and certainly are not in a stronger position financially. You could not argue that any 'NL1' clubs are better than Crusaders, because it's clear that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, and are desperately looking for someone else to blame for the failure of your club. And I'll state it again in case you missed it
1) please god let it be of interest to the RFL.
2) unless their bailed out by the RFL.
3) they were allowed more overseas players, their travel expenses were met by the RFL, because it suited the current RFL mandate of expansion at all costs.
4) how many paid?
As for us being 100% stronger,
Gates higher TICK
Our supporters spend more at away grounds adding value TICK
Our SL record is better overall TICK
We have award winning Community Dept TICK
We have league winning Academy Team TICK
for SL 2012 we have probably one of the best stadiums in SL TICK
and if Crusaders were declined they help received from the RFL they would have gone bust, we weren't offered any help and still survived so i would assume that must make us stronger financially if only because we didn't run up crusaders massive debt TICK
Featherstone Rovers are a better bet as are Batley and Halifax, all have won the necessary trophy'
s, all have better business plans and i would suspect all have more paying supporters.
It will be interesting to see by decision time the respective attendances for both clubs because i would wager there will be more than 1300 average difference.
Don't take this as being petty, its just applying logic, and its not personally aimed at Crusaders, as most of these are points are applicable to London also.
Am i bitter? if we go down because a poorer team is wanted more than us, you bet.
Out of interest, who do you support?

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Quote: kinleycat "1) please god let it be of interest to the RFL.
2) unless their bailed out by the RFL.
3) they were allowed more overseas players, their travel expenses were met by the RFL, because it suited the current RFL mandate of expansion at all costs.
4) how many paid?
As for us being 100% stronger,
Gates higher TICK
Our supporters spend more at away grounds adding value TICK
Our SL record is better overall TICK
We have award winning Community Dept TICK
We have league winning Academy Team TICK
for SL 2012 we have probably one of the best stadiums in SL TICK
and if Crusaders were declined they help received from the RFL they would have gone bust, we weren't offered any help and still survived so i would assume that must make us stronger financially if only because we didn't run up crusaders massive debt TICK
Featherstone Rovers are a better bet as are Batley and Halifax, all have won the necessary trophy'
s, all have better business plans and i would suspect all have more paying supporters.
It will be interesting to see by decision time the respective attendances for both clubs because i would wager there will be more than 1300 average difference.
Don't take this as being petty, its just applying logic, and its not personally aimed at Crusaders, as most of these are points are applicable to London also.
Am i bitter? if we go down because a poorer team is wanted more than us, you bet.
Out of interest, who do you support?'"


I agree with everything that you say but we all know the Crusaders will be in SL next season.

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Surely we are in a financial better position than Crusaders. We don't owe anyone any cash now. You owe the RFL 700k!

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Quote: headhunter "For the umpteenth time, I am not a Crusaders fan. The club obviously has a business plan of some sort, I personally have no interest in it because it doesn't concern me at all, just as it doesn't concern you. [sizeIf the home attendances aren't good enough to survive then the club will go bust, I don't understand why you are getting so wound up about the fact that they are not[/size. The club weren't 'fast tracked', they were in the NL1 final in the year that they were promoted and so would have gone up even with automatic promotion and relegation. The club that year also had one of the highest average crowds in that league, they averaged more than Leigh. I would like to know how you feel Wakefield are performing '100% better' than Crusaders. Last year Wakefield's average crowd was only 1,300 higher than Crusaders' even with the games in Neath included. The club is far weaker on the field, has far poorer facilities and certainly are not in a stronger position financially. You could not argue that any 'NL1' clubs are better than Crusaders, because it's clear that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, and are desperately looking for someone else to blame for the failure of your club. And I'll state it again in case you missed it


And then be bailed out again by the RFL at the expense of money that should be being spent in other areas of the game.
Add to that the fact that the RFL (I think it was Nigel Wood but I can't be sure) have said that going into administration will affect our bid, but yet everyone knows that the same course of action will not have any effect whatsoever on Crusaders bid.

This is why we are bitter towards Crusaders/The RFL. I agree our problems are of our own making but it doesn't make the clear bias demonstrated by the powers that run our game any less annoying/frustrating.

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