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Posted: February 7 2011 10:19 am

Quote: kinleycat "More money into the game is certainly a positive as far as a 16 team super league is concerned, however the RFL are skint and government cuts have led to a shortfall in funds for the world cup, so don't be surprised to see it any extra income get trousered.'"

RFL skint, but had the money to help Quins and celtic

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Posted: February 7 2011 6:58 pm

Quote: kinleycat "
Well baring in mind, the original post was with a link to the fact that they ran until 2012 and that's what we were discussing, that's a no then.'"

Right. I see where the confusion's occurring - you're using both the present tense and the past tense to refer to the future.

When you ask

Quote: kinleycat "Does the BBC have the rights to show the Challenge Cup?'"

you don't mean "does the BBC have the rights to show the Challenge Cup, now?" which is what the the present tense implies, but "Does the BBC have rights now to show the Challenge Cup in the future, from 2012?" and you're rightDidn't the BBC give up it's rights to the challenge cup?'"

- using the past tense to refer to something which has already happened - the answer is No. They've not. They have the rights they bought until the end of this year, which they've not given up; they don't - at the moment - have any rights beyond this year, which they haven't given up, because they naverhad them in the first place.

So, to go back again, there's no contradiction here

Quote: kinleycat "The Cup (or at least the Final) is still a listed event which must be shown on FTA. See the actual article linked to'"

Quote: kinleycat "Didn't the BBC give up it's rights to the challenge cup?'"

Quote: kinleycat "No'"

But this statement

Quote: kinleycat "Didn't the BBC give up it's rights to the challenge cup?
If so can't see them bidding for it, espn getting the challenge cup would be disastrous for many tv viewers.
Hopefully sky might get the lot, not good for non situ subscribers, but if the BBC don't care!!!'"

does contradict the facts.

Quote: kinleycat "Sticking on your point that it (CC Final) must remain on FTATV how does Richard Lewis see much competition occurring,[/quote]

There are 5 free to air terrestrial networks. Lewis's statement is that in the past the BBC have been the only one of the five interested in bidding, this time at least one of the other four has shown an interest - hence They're not. There are five terrestrial channels who can show it. All the 'list' means is that if it is televised, it must be on one of them

[quote and they no longer see it as being important?'"

Says who? Or are you leaping from your belief that they somehow have rights they've never had to the conclusion that they've given those rights up, despite never having them, and then to the conclusion that this means they no longer see the Cup as important (despite showing two games from every round of the comp after the SL clubs enter [and yes, I'd prefer them or any other terrestrial broadcaster which wins the rights from 2012 to show earlier rounds])?

Oh – and stop forcing me onto Smokey TA's territory of having to break a post into bits and reply point by point to an argument to show the gaping holes in both its assumptions and logic

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Posted: February 7 2011 7:01 pm

That's more helpful than "no"!

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Posted: February 7 2011 7:06 pm

Quote: tb "Right. I see where the confusion's occurring - you're using both the present tense and the past tense to refer to the future.

When you ask you don't mean "does the BBC have the rights to show the Challenge Cup, now?" which is what the the present tense implies, but "Does the BBC have rights now to show the Challenge Cup in the future, from 2012?" and you're right)?

Oh – and stop forcing me onto Smokey TA's territory of having to break a post into bits and reply point by point to an argument to show the gaping holes in both its assumptions and logic

Please don't come on here using that language,

We are a "=+=+=+ free zone and its staying that way.

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Posted: February 7 2011 7:31 pm

Quote: BIGAL1 "Please don't come on here using that language, 8.74267578125:10

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