Too right me and my 2 sons betweeen us travelled over 400 miles and spent best part of £200 to watch match, for what ? once again game was over after 15 minutes with our turnstyle defence out wide. Its hard to cheer when you are missing tackles and doing little other than walk the ball ten yards forward.

We aint going anywhere till we stop leaking tries, too much time spent in our own half as a result of poor tactical kicking, and missing tackles. The only good thing about the first half was i could see what was going on as it was all in our half. One of the few positives was the continuing improvement from paul cooke, thought bj tried hard and once again morrison, korki and moore played well other than that was magic millard in an invisibility cupboard?

You'd better duck; the Pies have only just stopped frothing and calling for blood over on their board after JK's comments. One of them will be along soon to say some combination of the following:

1. all coaches they've beaten are bitter and inept
2. they're not doing anything illegal
3. everyone in the media hates them (except, after last night, Paul Cullen and Tez)
4. they play free flowing and sexy rugby and we're all just jealous that we don't control the ruck/play the ref as effectively as they do
5. They used to think JK was ok but they've lost all respect for him now

Personally I'm not a great fan of the tactic, but it has an air of inevitability about it now; everyone will be doing it by next season, with varying degrees of success.

As a fan I'd be happy to watch it if we were as good at it as you are - 5 drives and a kick gets a bit tedious.

You could never say that about watching Cas....paint runs quicker than we do

AND STILL IS