I have lost count over the past few months (maybe even years) that you have claimed to know how Leeds et al have been sniffing round him but the deal, for whatever reason, has not come off.

They have been after him, but they can not speak to the player unless the club say they can. Leeds did not have an offer accepted but Warrington did. So he can't go where the money is.

And you really believe that in the real world clubs follow the official procedure and protocol?

And you really think there is any use in talking to a club when an offer has not been accepted? He had one deal on the table was the only one he could sign.

I think it's fair to say that 'if' there had been equal pay on the table from Leeds and Wire then Mr Atkins would be singing a different tune but then that is how it is in professional sport.

Before I would have said Leeds he would have gone for but I think Tony Smith would have persuaded him otherwise had he had the choice between Wire and Leeds.

No, but I would suggest there is more than one way of say Leeds for arguments sake offering a player through the back door say £175k per year. What chance then Atkins accepting the official offer through the official channels from Wire of say £125k per year? I think I would be right in assuming the player has to agree 'personal terms' before the club can agree the sale.

We also know that Atkins held a fairly strong hand, as in a year he could bugger off for nowt - so the club would have to have this in mind at all times.

whilst I have no problem with Ryan leaving this is a very good example as to why the national coach should also be allowed to coach a superleague team... obviously players with international aspirations will be drawn to that club.

viewtopic.php?t=429249 bit more info and background on the move.

viewtopic.php?t=429249 bit more info and background on the move.

He's a bit stupid saying things like that while he's still employed by another club. I know players say whatever they think whichever audience they are speaking to would like to hear, but that's very silly indeed. Drop him and fine him.

What bit don't you agree with?...