is he any good

Bang on, bye Ryan and good luck.

a lot of sense on this board at last

ryan said something he probably regrets but hes not the sharpest of tools really and i think by his enthusiasm shows he was not pushed by a club he wanted to stay at for ever.

agreed?

I'd like to think any club worth anything would understand a player turning down such a request due to their still having commitments elsewhere, and any player put in that position would have it in them to say no.

Before hearing about the shirt thing, my attitude was fair enough and good luck to him, but this has soured my view somewhat and just seems so unnecessary.

Oh come off it, he's not a piece of meat, his agent and the club cannot just do a deal and then let him know. A contract is a two way thing mate and in the same way we could force a player to stay a player can also stay until his contract ends.

I think you need to remove your rose tinted specs and accept that your hero has a mind of his own. I accept Atkins would have been happy to stay had the offer been right, you also know have to accept you've been kidded and realise he was also happy to leave for the right deal.

RL is a hard game and there is no room for sentiment - I sincerely hope you don't play cards with Ryan because he will take you to the cleaners every time. Let's move on - the king is dead long live the king!

according to some of the posts on this thread he has been banging at the door for the last couple of years for money or threatening to leave..don't know if it is true but we have received good money and his salary off the cap..played well for the last 5 games but generally not been good enough for me..when an "old" bloke like senior makes him look stupid would rather try some "not quite as big time charlie". i would rather grix stayed with the effort he always puts in.

as for wearing the warrington gear...what brain ???