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| Difficult Decisions, great headline?? but with everything that is going on in this RL, its not just about the coach, team etc, its more to do with the actual Rugby League itself IMO. With most of the teams in Kingstone Press Championship its slowly dying away, and Professionalism has ruined the real Game and its the same in other sports. Its all about chasing the TV buck now to pay the silly wages. Yet perversely the talent pool seems to be getting shallower..
This Post is something that I come across, and a time where he played rugby back in the day!
"it used to be a grass roots game, working class, accessible to anyone of any standard. we were only talking about how John Pitts saved Keighley when he got a bunch of local lads to fill in one year! That is team spirit, that is what the game is about, working for each other. Compare that to the modern super league that is only about money, they have forgotten about the grass roots game all together! whilst I am in awe of the talent of some super league players. I don't have much respect for the emerging super stars who feel that they are much better than those that have gone before. If I have the likes of Tony Fisher, Peter Roe, John Pitts, Kevin Whitely, Roger Millward, Jimmy Thomson, Les Sellers, Karl Fairbank, Mark Fairbank and a few others that I could name by my side I would pull my boots back on now and line up against any super league side. It would not be pretty but I would do it for nothing! would they?"
Super league has been crap this season so far, dual-reg isnt working for some clubs and however we havent used any castleford players for a while a plus point for Marchy and keeping our boys playing, different rules for Super league n championships regarding comp points, no tv money from premier sports.
With Dual Reg :- Swinton for one has a new coach, with VERY GOOD links with Warrington, in fact played for them! so they do have a PLUS side does swinton but it does take out the main players for Swinton if they use a lot of warrington players, which they have done in Chambo's first game! so instead of 5 players why not just use up to limit of 2. But a pat on the back for Marchy not using any Cas players for a good while.
So it may not just be the coach thats the problem in this case, it could be just the game and the rules of the RFL thats ruining it completely, think of some rules that are not used now but used before and really would be good to see back?
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| Quote: Mr Hicks "
As a coach I don't know how you change this player mentality but I do think last years experience in key positions prove if them type of players want to play for you there worth there weight in gold.
If we have any ambition to kick on from here maybe a change in coach and bring in a experienced scrum half would be the answer but im not saying what should be done as all I do is pay to support the team and others in the same position should give some thought to what they say before shouting about sacking him, dropping him, spend this spend that.
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Pretty fair comments. As a fan, I do not know if the problem lies with Paul March or something else within the club. However, it is his job to "get them up for it", and unfortunately it's usually the coach that gets it in the neck when the team under perform.
I'm not a fan of people shouting insults at coaches or players during the match, I just think it's counter productive.
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| Quote: Dreamer "Pretty fair comments. As a fan, I do not know if the problem lies with Paul March or something else within the club. However, it is his job to "get them up for it", and unfortunately it's usually the coach that gets it in the neck when the team under perform.
I'm not a fan of people shouting insults at coaches or players during the match, I just think it's counter productive.'"
I agree with what you put. Marchy will get it in the neck if players not up to scratch or any other problems and Gary also gets in the neck as he is the public face rather than other directors.
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| <-------- Wonders why there is so much ' Jekyll and Hyde ' within the
team , only getteng half a game from them is not good and it ponders the question
of Wjat else is going on that we all know nothing about ....
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| Yet again we have the ' can't put my finger on it ' comment when discussing players with a
lack of desire and the second half meltdown we are seeing time and time again.....
Maybe lack of leadership on the field ,
maybe lack of discipline on the field from yourself Marchy ..... Too many spats with the ref,
lead by example.
Maybe changing tactics through out the game instead of other teams sussing out ours after the
first ten minutes,
Maybe the stupid and silly mistakes that are repeating themselves week after week.....
Danny Jones kicking the ball dead from the kick off for instance ,
Relegation this season means two years minimum in the league of doom ,
Super League 2 is there for the taking but not from Ch 1.....
Things need to happen NOW to avoid Relegation.
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| Quote: burleycougar "
Things need to happen NOW to avoid Relegation.'"
Things could be better it would appear. But, it is clear everybody at Keighley Cougars is doing all they are capable of to achieve the aim of winning every match the team plays. That being the case, supporters need to stick together and support. Unless and until a group of half a dozen people with say £50k each to put into the Cougars comes along as a new board in waiting and publicly offers to buy the club from Mr Fawcett there's no point in airing such negativity.
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| Quote: Mr Churchill "Things could be better it would appear. But, it is clear everybody at Keighley Cougars is doing all they are capable of to achieve the aim of winning every match the team plays. That being the case, supporters need to stick together and support. Unless and until a group of half a dozen people with say £50k each to put into the Cougars comes along as a new board in waiting and publicly offers to buy the club from Mr Fawcett there's no point in airing such negativity.'"
The point being it is my opinion , therefore There is a point in airing it. As much point as anyone
airing their own opinio......this being a forum .
It's a shame there has been so much apathy surrounding this topic , only a few can see the
total mess the club will be in if Relegation happens ,with many just ignoring the subject with
hope that it goes away.
If my posts contain too much negativity / realism Mr Churchill then please by all means
Ignore them.
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| Quote: Dominance "
To try and balance the critique of March, he is if nothing else a very approachable and nice guy. He is part-time and JD was full time. With than in mind, March will probably rely on others to compile the analysis. I'm guessing to a certain extent, but I bet JD did a lot himself. To quote styles you'd probably call Marchy an activist/pragmatist with JD being the opposite (reflector/theorist). In modern rugby I think the successful coaches tend to have the latter traits.'"
I wonder which category you would put Shaun Wane in? Talking of Wigan, I wonder if you think the club should try to get Bobbie Goulding in as part-time Head Coach with Paul March becoming his p-t assistant player/coach?
Goulding's infectious enthusiasm could only be a plus. As well as the fact he came through the Wigan system and played at the top/international level for years. He proved himsef as a club coach and has recent international coaching experience with France. He would be aware of quality players who might be suitable to bring in on loan.
I think this development woud help the squad avoid relegation this year and he would be the right man to take the team forward towards the oppoportunities the impending re-introduction of promotion and relegation will bring.
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| I used to love watching Bobby goulding play but it's no secret that his ability to press the self distruct button has lost him jobs as both player and coach. However, he is a loveable rogue.
He has been away from superleague for long enough to make his tactical knowledge less relevant and I have no idea how he is as a man manager. There is no doubt though, that he is enthusiastic and a "big name".
He appeared to do a good job at Rochdale but if I remember, left because he was frustrated by the clubs financial position. Hmmm....
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| Quote: Wooden Stand "I wonder which category you would put Shaun Wane in? Talking of Wigan, I wonder if you think the club should try to get Bobbie Goulding in as part-time Head Coach with Paul March becoming his p-t assistant player/coach?
Goulding's infectious enthusiasm could only be a plus. As well as the fact he came through the Wigan system and played at the top/international level for years. He proved himsef as a club coach and has recent international coaching experience with France. He would be aware of quality players who might be suitable to bring in on loan.
I think this development woud help the squad avoid relegation this year and he would be the right man to take the team forward towards the oppoportunities the impending re-introduction of promotion and relegation will bring.'"
To answer your point, Wane IMO is an activist but has plenty of others around him to provide analytical theories and tactics helping him formulate the game plan. Unfortunately, we are not blessed with such resources. Goulding's an interesting option but would he be attracted to the Cougars? From what I've heard anywhere Golding goes David Ferriol would follow?
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| Quote: Dominance "To answer your point, Wane IMO is an activist but has plenty of others around him to provide analytical theories and tactics helping him formulate the game plan. Unfortunately, we are not blessed with such resources. Goulding's an interesting option but would he be attracted to the Cougars? From what I've heard anywhere Golding goes David Ferriol would follow?'"
Some great ideas being banded about but I don't think the board have any intention of changing anything .....hope I am wrong.
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| Quote: Wooden Stand "I wonder if you think the club should try to get Bobbie Goulding in as part-time Head Coach with Paul March becoming his p-t assistant player/coach?'"
Marchy is a talented coach with a good pedigree (look at the success he had at Hunslet and York). Given the closeness of the bottom 9 places this league will be decided in the 2nd half of the season, not the first half. The best step forward our club can make is an emphatic win tomorrow night.
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| Credit where it is due , well done with the signing of Elliot Cosgrove ,
A HUGE step in the right direction .
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| Quote: TheClubsVoice "Marchy is a talented coach with a good pedigree (look at the success he had at Hunslet and York). Given the closeness of the bottom 9 places this league will be decided in the 2nd half of the season, not the first half. The best step forward our club can make is an emphatic win tomorrow night.'"
I wish I could share your optimism , nearly a fortnight later and we are in the
same predicament - Looking relegation straight in the eyes.
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| This post is as relevqnt today as when it was first posted.
Saved by the skin of our teeth....
Today , yet again , we were just not up to it and were beaten by a team that wanted it more
on the day , It is a good job Fev give Hunslet a good hiding or who knows what could
have happened if ither teams had performed different and to stay in the championship
on tje merit of a bonus point just doesn't do it for me.
The same old same old all season , the same results most of the season, the same
post match video excuses most od the season.
If this term has been a learning curve then lessons must be learnt from it.
Time for a new broom to sweep clean, Sorry Marchy but you just didn't cut the
mustard I.M.o.
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