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| Quote: guess who "In the last 20 mins. We didnt appear to have any one taking control of the game.
Some really poor decisions were made.
Funny how people see things differently. I thought Obst was quite today.'"
Quite what? or quiet?
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| With the ref I think he was bad both ways so thats no excuse
We had it won and blew it the last 15 minutes
2 things for me chaged the flow of the game.
Our failure in attack to score more points from our dominance in possession was a big point as we dominated the teritorial match for 60 minutes
But especialy the nock on from Duffy under no presure at all - That gave batley such a boost and completly changed the game. Just one incident like that clicked a switch we missed tackles, gave penalties away after that to give the bulldogs victory
In general I was happy because it was an improvement from the Bulls game thats foresure in a meaning match aswell, We can take positives out of it and hopefully use them to get better still. And the fact that Batley are a decent team, we will play worse teams than that season, Id personaly rank them 4th behind Leigh, Fev and Fax.
On indicidual performances id say no way Barnet MOM, the last 15 mins showed our left side frailties in defence with tadulala. That needs fixing
On who I though was a our MOM, Id say Coleman if hed have had some more game time, I thought it was a master stroke playing him at 13 sadly when March was on for him the attack seemed to lose impitus.
On March, I still feel he doesnt cut it anymore, Bottom corner he had a 3 on 2 to score us what would have been the try to seal it to either get Parrata and Duffy in , A shocking pass came from him and Duffy did well just to retian possesion 20 yards back.
Obst, I though he was less effective than he was was against the Bulls, I agree his defence was top draw, But im not going to nock him, If feel John Kear had him pegged well as the bulldogs had him closed down effery time
Korkidas, i think he did OK, his repuation again was downfall, he had 3 guys round him in a flash everytime he got the ball, one thing I will critisise from that, is that his play the balls were slow, with the defence hitting him as they were if he had played the ball that bit quicker im sure the halves could have been able to pounce on a depleted defence. In defence he was solid
Danny Jones - Very poor for me, he simply was picking the wrong option time and time again while in defence he must have missed more tackles than anyone else
JD - Thats clasic JD for me the MOM he really does do well in that position, left to do hard graft, I dont know the actual stat, but he must have been our top tackler and he ran it in stongly like a second row should.
Parrata - Pick of the backs for me - He was a rock in defence, meaning practicaly duffy had no tackles to make, and when he did get the ball he was a handfull but sadly the service was not there.
Like I say its not all doom and gloom. It leaves room for plenty of optimism
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| For me the game turned when Danny Jones sent a grubber kick through on the left hand side early in the tackle count that went in to touch when there really was no need to do it. Batley scored off the next set.
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| Like Stealth says capitulation.
Taking nothing away from Batley they took their chances very well.
Semi Tadulala struggled in the centres, he did not get any decent ball in space and defensivly he was at six`s and sevens. Bloke near me says he needed to pull his socks up
Obst had a very good game but not enough runners coming off him with any purpose.
We were in control in the first half but did not put the game to bed i think Batley were in our 20 maybe 4 times at the most.
JD looked strong think he needs to play in the centres and move ST to the wing.
Danny Jones! Kicked far too early and did not take the ball to the line and try to commit defenders.
All the Props put in good stints, when the grounds get harder think Korki will come to the fore.
I think we look like we will be a good dry weather footballing side.
I was very impressed to say it was our first serious run out and at times we played some decent stuff, just the players who you thought would penetrate struggled in the conditions.
I am sure Guess who will be questioning which game i was at!
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| I think it's all been said in the above posts , great game till the last 20 minutes then fell apart , some fine tuning then i think results will come.
WELL PLAYED COUGARS !!!!
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| Quote: Whingers Neighbour "
I am sure Guess who will be questioning which game i was at!'"
Why would i do that?
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| Quote: Dominance "Quite what? or quiet?'"
Quiet as in, he didnt appear to be organising the attack. In the last 20 the game needed grabbing by the scruff of the neck.
I would have expected him to do this.
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| I agree with most of what's been said, we blew it! - the big plus is we have improved every game, have pressure for positions and it looks like there is more to come. Batley have played at this level for a few years we have to make the jump to playing with intensity for 80 mins not just 65.
They will be very pleased with their win, but if I were a Batley fan I would be less than pleased with Kears tactics. They have gone from a free flowing, hard hitting rugby playing team to spoilers. Some may disagree, but I simply don't like that style of rugby.
A tough next game, will be interesting to see how JD handles it.
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| That's tough. We were never free flowing, in fact under KH we tended to wear teams down rather than cut them to pieces. It was one of the complaints under KH that we did not go for it when we seemed to have teams there for the taking.
As for spoiling, nothing more than sour grapes I think.
You have more players who have played at a higher level than us and should be able as a team be able to cope with this level. Semi T was pretty anonymous yesterday and had little impact on the game. JD played well but I wonder if the pressure of coaching at this level and leading his team might be a bit too much this season. RB was only ok, how did he win the MOM, and SO led well but struggled in the second half I think. I could go on about your big name players!
I would also be worried that you had so much possession during the first half and first 20 of the second that you should have been out of sight. The title of this thread is very apt, your boys looked knackered with 20 to go! Not good.
We were not very good at all yesterday, yet we still won!
Good luck for the rest of the season, I hope you thrive and enjoy this level, it's become an exciting division with lots of shocks to be had.
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| Quote: distantdog "As for spoiling, nothing more than sour grapes I think.'"
What has the truth, got to do with sour grapes?
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simpsons/simp048.gif I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right!
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| Quote: distantdog "
As for spoiling, nothing more than sour grapes I think.
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Not sour grapes at all, congratulations on your victory.
It's my opinion, which I'm entitled to - you spoiled plain and simple. It got you a victory so once again well done, but it's not the sort of rugby I want to watch.
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| I am interested to know exactly what we did that would be considered spoiling. I thought defensively we were pretty good yesterday if that's what you mean. Oh and I never said you were not entitled to an opinion, feel free to express it.
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| Some of these comments on 'spoiling tactics' and 'dirty play' are reminiscent of remarks made by Cougars fans in the mid-90's when our team of free transfers used to beat your expensive big names at both Cougar Park and Mount Pleasant. Come on, at least wait until your side are at the top end of the league before starting with this tripe. As for the 'turned from a free flowing side into a bunch of spoilers' rubbish, did you ever watch us under Harrison???!!! We played some of the most negative, unattractive rugby I've ever seen at Batley during that period. Although it was successful, and is what makes Harrison a good coach, we were massively boring to watch at times.
Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'. Some of your fans seem to have what I like to call 'St.Helens syndrome', screaming vehemently for an offence every other second. At one stage I heard cries for 'offside', 'high tackle' and 'holding down' all within a single play.
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simpsons/simp048.gif I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right!
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| Quote: distantdog "I am interested to know exactly what we did that would be considered spoiling. I thought defensively we were pretty good yesterday if that's what you mean. Oh and I never said you were not entitled to an opinion, feel free to express it.'"
Your defence [iwas[/i good.
By spoiling I mean laying on, flopping, slow release of the ball carrier, messing around at the play the ball, facials.
All open to interpretation, but should have been controlled by the ref.
You did what you were allowed to get away with.
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| if I did my job has bad has the officials did yesterday i whould not only get the sack but i whould never get a job again it was the worst display of reffing i have ever seen and thats bad i watch alot of rugby.hope they learn from it because if they dont its going to be a long season . on that display i meant go to red hall for a job cant do no worse if they get to do it
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