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| My point about the easily contactable supporter's clubs is that if an individual wants to go to a game for the very first time, they have a ready-made bunch of 'mates' to tag along with. No-one wants to go to the rugby and be billy no mates, this way they'll feel part of the whole thing much sooner. Hopefully it'd add to their enjoyment of the day and convince them to come to more games.
...Well, that's MY theory...I could be talking out of my a**e, of course, it wouldn't be the first time!
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Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness.
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| Quote: Mick W. "
...Well, that's MY theory...I could be talking out of my a**e, of course, it wouldn't be the first time!'"
If you sat in a bowl of glitter first, you could give a sparkling speech ....... ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote: Mick W. "My point about the easily contactable supporter's clubs is that if an individual wants to go to a game for the very first time, they have a ready-made bunch of 'mates' to tag along with. No-one wants to go to the rugby and be billy no mates, this way they'll feel part of the whole thing much sooner. Hopefully it'd add to their enjoyment of the day and convince them to come to more games.
...Well, that's MY theory...I could be talking out of my a**e, of course, it wouldn't be the first time!'"
A good idea.
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| Quote: Stealth Comic "I'm with you there Steve.
The customers at our place wouldn't pay more money for product just to keep staff in a job.
There's only 3 ways to dig our way out of this.
1) Get more fans coming in.
2) Make the business more efficient, cutting wage bills, letting staff go etc.
3) One of us hits the euromillions jackpot and runs the club through philanthropy.'"
Four ways Mick
4) Sponsorship - The ground in the 90's was covered with sponsorship boards, this did two things, brought in much needed revenue and tidied up the ground making it look a whole lot better than it does today, it pays to look good, it creates a small but meaningful part of the atmosphere that is Cougarmania, what do the fans see at the moment when they come to Cougar park? - empty spaces where boards used to be, showing that once upon a time Keighley used to be a great place to be, a part of what we need to do is offer cut price advertising boarding, any income is better than no income at all right?
Just whilst we are talking of creating the Cougarmania atmosphere, the small things mattered to the youngest fans that we are trying to encourage to come to Keighley - Paint the Cougar footprints around the ground - kids love to see these
Invite the schools we are working with to a 20 minute pre match game with one cougar player playing in each team - provide free match day tickets to the participating schools and parents, how many extra spectators would we see on these days? which would create a better atmosphere and who knows how many families will come back as paying fans! - this can only increase the revenue in the long run
All the small things add up
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| It seems to me that there are people on here calling fior the heads of the Directors(2001 Ltd), in my view a little unfairly, directors of a rugby club and indeed any kind of business, can only act on the information given to them.
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| Quote: forwardpass1 "It seems to me that there are people on here calling fior the heads of the Directors(2001 Ltd), in my view a little unfairly, directors of a rugby club and indeed any kind of business, can only act on the information given to them.'"
Okay then, enlighten us.
People can only pass opinion on the information released to them, which in the case of Cougar supporters, is sp.
If you have some info which would influence people's thoughts, then let us know, because so far we have this to go on:
"we won't get in debt"
followed by:
"we are in debt"
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| Quote: Harry-Al-Hill "Four ways Mick
4) Sponsorship - The ground in the 90's was covered with sponsorship boards, this did two things, brought in much needed revenue and tidied up the ground making it look a whole lot better than it does today, it pays to look good, it creates a small but meaningful part of the atmosphere that is Cougarmania, what do the fans see at the moment when they come to Cougar park? - empty spaces where boards used to be, showing that once upon a time Keighley used to be a great place to be, a part of what we need to do is offer cut price advertising boarding, any income is better than no income at all right?
Just whilst we are talking of creating the Cougarmania atmosphere, the small things mattered to the youngest fans that we are trying to encourage to come to Keighley - Paint the Cougar footprints around the ground - kids love to see these
Invite the schools we are working with to a 20 minute pre match game with one cougar player playing in each team - provide free match day tickets to the participating schools and parents, how many extra spectators would we see on these days? which would create a better atmosphere and who knows how many families will come back as paying fans! - this can only increase the revenue in the long run
All the small things add up'"
You're right Al.
But as has been mentioned on other threads. What business is going to want associate their name and reputation with us at the moment given all the negative publicity surrounding the club?
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
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| Quote: Harry-Al-Hill "Four ways Mick
4) Sponsorship - The ground in the 90's was covered with sponsorship boards, this did two things, brought in much needed revenue and tidied up the ground making it look a whole lot better than it does today, it pays to look good, it creates a small but meaningful part of the atmosphere that is Cougarmania, what do the fans see at the moment when they come to Cougar park? - empty spaces where boards used to be, showing that once upon a time Keighley used to be a great place to be, a part of what we need to do is offer cut price advertising boarding, any income is better than no income at all right?
Just whilst we are talking of creating the Cougarmania atmosphere, the small things mattered to the youngest fans that we are trying to encourage to come to Keighley - Paint the Cougar footprints around the ground - kids love to see these
Invite the schools we are working with to a 20 minute pre match game with one cougar player playing in each team - provide free match day tickets to the participating schools and parents, how many extra spectators would we see on these days? which would create a better atmosphere and who knows how many families will come back as paying fans! - this can only increase the revenue in the long run
All the small things add up'"
The equation is simple , more people in the ground , the more willing businesses will be to pay for sponsoship , as for the rest , yes , but the difficulty is controlling the issuing of free adult tickets , that is the reason many BOD 's are unwilling to do it
But then again solving problems is what businessmen are supposed to be good at , unfortunatley too many seem to lack imagination when it comes to these things
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| Quote: Starbug "The equation is simple , more people in the ground , the more willing businesses will be to pay for sponsoship , as for the rest , yes , but the difficulty is controlling the issuing of free adult tickets , that is the reason many BOD 's are unwilling to do it
But then again solving problems is what businessmen are supposed to be good at , unfortunatley too many seem to lack imagination when it comes to these things'"
I agree, more people = more business sponsorship, start it off as cheap as you like for the first season and raise it gradual as we continue in the Championship next season!.
Lets try and get a decent paying sponsor for the roof of the stand/stands for the foreseeable, lets say 4 years at £costs£ agreed but they are responsible for the sign writing and the upkeep for the set period of time, so thats no outlay, no upkeep, free roof repair and money in the bank, the deal is on the terms that the club make it! - We can use the Sky games as leverage for a better sum
The controlling of the free tickets is a tricky one I understand, last season the £5 entry tickets were issued, How may of these tickets were used?, Did the use of these tickets cause a downturn on average gate takings? i.e were the tickets being used by regular fans or new fans?, Who is collating this information to determine the best solution of using these tickets to attract new fans only?, until the information is assessed there can be no answers, it may be easier and less stressful to allow one adult free with each child from the schools concerned, this way it is only a matter of ensuring that the tickets are issued in a controlled way (whatever that may be) - Childs name, DOB, maybe just the issuers signature etc...... - so that the ticket may only be used by the child named
Lets keep positive for the sake of the club ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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simpsons/simp048.gif I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right!
Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness.
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| Quote: forwardpass1 "It seems to me that there are people on here calling fior the heads of the Directors(2001 Ltd), in my view a little unfairly, directors of a rugby club and indeed any kind of business, can only act on the information given to them.'"
I don't think people are "calling for their heads".... they want a truthful explanation of the current situation (then they might call for someone's head).
Let's face it, Mr Spencer did not endear himself to all the fans during his time as chairman and a few may now be adding one and one together and coming up with three.
If a Roman emperor keeps insisting that the peasants are revolting then eventually they will.
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46524.jpg Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Just walk beside me and be my friend. -Albert Camus:46524.jpg |
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| Quote: Harry-Al-Hill "I agree, more people
I like the idea of exchanging sponsorship for relevant services.
We could do a deal with Copper Dragon brewery for cost price ale in exchange for hoardings or for naming rights to a stand.
Willis Walker for cheap training gear, an outlet in town centre we could sell kit out of.
Wild's for pies to sell at the game.
A new digital scoreboard off a local electrical shop.
There's a lot of possibilities to be had.
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simpsons/simp048.gif I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right!
Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness.
Anon.:simpsons/simp048.gif |
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| Quote: forwardpass1 "..... directors of a rugby club and indeed any kind of business, can only act on the information given to them.'"
Not strictly true, directors must show due diligence; part of which means ensuring the validity of the information they use to make important decisions.
Incidentally, I am not having a go at the old directors, I, like most fans, do not have enough valid information on which to form a solid opinion. I wish I had!!!
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| Quote: Stealth Comic "I like the idea of exchanging sponsorship for relevant services.
We could do a deal with Copper Dragon brewery for cost price ale in exchange for hoardings or for naming rights to a stand.
Willis Walker for cheap training gear, an outlet in town centre we could sell kit out of.
Wild's for pies to sell at the game.
A new digital scoreboard off a local electrical shop.
There's a lot of possibilities to be had.'"
Absolutely, love the idea of the beer trading ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif) , this could work, I wonder if the new directors will buy into this idea?, its not for profit and its low running costs meaning that any additional gate fees could go towards the ground, players etc... building our club in a unique way to be one of a kind, yet another ground breaking way forward from Keighley Cougars
(I may be getting a little carried away here ![Confused icon_confused.gif](images/smilies//icon_confused.gif) )
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| Quote: Harry-Al-Hill "Absolutely, love the idea of the beer trading
It's mutally beneficial too.
We'd get the beer at cost so we'd make more money on it.
The brewery get the advertising but more importantly, they get away fans coming in large numbers from further afield sampling it.
So when Rach serves them a cracking pint of Golden Pippin they'll remember it and pick up a few bottles when the see it on the supermarket shelf back home.
Everybody wins and nobody has to pay for anything.
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| A local brewery involved with the cougars? not a chance. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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