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I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right! Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness. Anon.:simpsons/simp048.gif



Quote: aj cougar "I suspect neil is still around because he's one of the creditors still owed a total in excess of £300,000.

I suppose he has to be kept sweet.'"


I thought the debt was wiped out, apart from the club statement that they would endeavour to pay back some of the debt from any future profit.

Why do we need to keep him sweet?

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Neil is not a creditor fact!!!

As Dreamer says the debt was wiped out and with a clean slate. What the new board agreed was over the next few years as matter of good business and goodwill any profit made will be split and payment made to local former creditors the benefit of this is not only do locals get some money that was wiped out by going into administration but shows new board can be trusted more than previous regime.

Neil sadly and I mean this in a friendly way firmly believes he did nothing wrong by lying to players, sponsors, fans and the taxman and that is a worry.

What folk have to remember is whilst previously Neil clearly put money in he also took some back. End of day his time is up just wish those in his inner circle could get through to him, but then again why should they as they may then have to pay like the rest.

There is more that I am aware of but cannot publicly say but the fact the rfl found him UNFIT AND PROPER, this is not done on a whim and covers various checks, past records etc and risk of reoffending, its not just me but they know same as me.

Its a real shame things are like this and yes I go on about way too much but end of day it was not me who shafted the club and ruined the name of Keighley Cougars again.

At least Gordon Brown walked away with dignity icon_cool.gif

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Quote: girl power "
There is more that I am aware of but cannot publicly say'"


Ah, very intelligent response - the old "I know something you don't" trick

Do i sound like someone else in saying that, or am i dreaming icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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What do people want Neil to do?

We know he is a Keighley fan. He loves the team.
If he wants to come and watch then fair enough.

What is the real problem????????????????????????????????

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Quote: guess who "What do people want Neil to do?

We know he is a Keighley fan. He loves the team.
If he wants to come and watch then fair enough.

What is the real problem????????????????????????????????'"


If he did that and just that I wouldn't have a problem at all.

Hell, if he got a few chants going I'd join in with him!

He doesn't though, as alluded to before, he struts around as if it's still his club. At every home game his car parked right next to the gate with it's personal plates serving as a reminder of what he did to our club.

As a man he was taking the plaudits big time after we won in Warrington telling us how we well off we were. When the proverbial hit the fan where was he? Was he sorry? No. Has he ever apologised? No. Has ever shown any humility, remorse or regret regarding what happened? No.

He made 2 post match speeches that nearly started a riot in the bar, did he care? No.

At Whitehaven he managed to park up inside the stadium compound next to the team bus. When you bear in mind Micky was filming the game for Barry on a club pass and wasn't allowed to do the same, it makes you wonder how on earth he gets away with stuff like that as "just a normal fan".

He's lauding it and rubbing every other decent Keighley fan's nose in it.

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Quote: girl power "Neil is not a creditor fact!!!

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He's a creditor.

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Quote: guess who "
There is more that I am aware of but cannot publicly say'"


Ah, very intelligent response - the old "I know something you don't" trick

Do i sound like someone else in saying that, or am i dreaming
There is a difference between can not say and will not say icon_wink.gif

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I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right! Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness. Anon.:simpsons/simp048.gif



Quote: aj cougar "He's a creditor.'"


I'm not an expert about the admin situation but I thought all debts were wiped clean.

Isn't it only the clubs vountary undertaking to pay back creditors IF the club makes a profit (and I think there were conditions). Not many RL clubs make a profit.

I have no problem with Neil as a fan, but the situation he put the club in is unacceptable - that is unless GW cares to tell us something we don't already know that mitigates thisicon_wink.gif

If there is something that mitigates this then I would expect Neils "followers" to be shouting it loud and long.

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I say again Neil is not a creditor, and as Dreamer says there is massive difference between cannot say and will not say, its a case of cannot say as told by the person who supplied the info.

If I could I would have posted to prove my point without doubt.

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I found out that there were no directors of the club at Whitehaven and Neil was a representative of the club.

Can the club kindly confirm why by allowing this to happen knowing the feelings of fans, after all he is just a fan now so open this up to others if possible. I do not include myself in this.

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Ouch........ be careful what you say.

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Dreamer you have a point.am changing tack.

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Quote: girl power "I say again Neil is not a creditor, and as Dreamer says there is massive difference between cannot say and will not say, its a case of cannot say as told by the person who supplied the info.

If I could I would have posted to prove my point without doubt.'"


He's listed as a creditor in the administrators proposals, alongside Farrar and Fawcett, local businesses, and the dreaded inland revenue.

It's in black and white.

Whether he'll ever get any money back is debatable, but he IS a creditor

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AJ I am not disputing those you mentioned were on the proposals as creditors of cougars 2001 and any deal had to get acceptance of at least 75%to go for an iva of creditors which clearly was done, however once the organisation goes bust all debts are wiped clean including the tax bill.

Now the club is now a not for profit organisation any profits which for a rugby league club is small would be split 50% to club other to previous creditors but there is no obligation to do this but its more of goodwill gesture to keep locals sweet as.

Neil is not a creditor of cougars 2010.

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In my opinion sending Neil Spencer as a rep for the club shows a mssive disregard by the new board towards some of the loyalest fans of the Cougars.

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