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| The directors do have to share the responsibilities of what is happening, if they had Marchy in mind to take over jd or if jd recommended Marchy in my opinion they should have spoken to Marchy and said they would like him to take the position of head coach but they will have to put out to advert to see what interest they get first. I suppose you never know who is thinking of becoming a coach or maybe that someone like jd that is ready to step down from super league and become a coach. I think our problem will be the usual problem and that is money. We have cut back and cut back until there is nothing left to cut back on so if the club was looking at spending any cash any time soon then nows the time to spend that on a top coach, a leader.
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| Its too early to start talking about replacing the coach. Paul March should be given a fair and decent chance.
Key players like Rawlins and Wray still to return from injury, so lets not hit the panic button just yet.
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| Ok,fair enough comment ,but when do we hit the panic button ?
Things cannot be left much longer ,should the worst happen and we
have not won in another 4 games is it too early then?
Things need to start happening now as we do not want to be cast adrift at the bottom
of the championship, relegation to the 'league of doom ' cannot be an option.
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| If the club sacks Paul, they'll have to pay out the remainder of his contract. Then there's recruitment costs, then you have to pay the new guy.
Bottom line being can they afford it?
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| IMO 4 games and 4 friendlies is enough and not too early.
In the very early days of the fabulous ' Cougarmania ' (all hail the two Micks )
Tony Fisher was ' let go ' after the cougars lost the opening game of the season,
to Bramley I think.
How about seeing what Roey is up to these days
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| Quote: den "Its too early to start talking about replacing the coach. Paul March should be given a fair and decent chance.
Key players like Rawlins and Wray still to return from injury, so lets not hit the panic button just yet.'"
I agree
We need the first 17 on the field and allow them time to play before criticising them, unfortunately this isn't going to happen for approx 5 weeks so we are looking at a rough couple of months, we have to hope the squad available in the meantime get some points on the table.
Marchy has proved himself as a coach at Hunslet and needs our support right now not fans calling for his head
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| When Baz had his first season managing us in Champ he did not get a win until Easter and we got some right stuffings prior to that. Nobody called for Baz to quit and he was there full time. Paul is doing this part time.
Baz never had the players leave at the end of one season and the injuries Paul has.
We were beaten narrowly by a team of similar standard.
Danny Jones IMO did ok at full back but his skill, passing, and vision was missed in the halves.
Anybody who does not think Pauls Heart and effort is not 100% behind Cougars is a fool.
He is trying to race a car, he has some good parts, but still has a few parts missing and whilst waiting for the parts to mend other parts get broken. There is little money to buy new parts.
I don't think he has had a strongest 17 yet.
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| Not saying his heart isnt in it, he just isn't good enough coach and doesn't seem to be able to motivate the players. Simple if doesnt go we are down
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| Having calmed down, i think getting rid of March right now is not the answer. Infact I bet the club can`t afford to.
Two tought games coming up though and can only see heavy losses.
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| Not oneperson has said he has not got the heart or commitment,he has lots and it
can be seen, when one speaks to him cougars ooze from every pore in his body .
What some of us ate saying is he does not have the skills needed for the intense league
that is the championship , we do not have much longer to get things sorted.
Also micky, I have the upmost respect for you and the fantastic job you do
filming our games but please stop the name calling.
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| To me Swinton looked a much better team than they were last year. This may be because they were looking to impress before a new coach comes in, but they all gave 100% especially in defence which was superb. This was what won the game for them as they held us up over the line on at least five occasions in the second half when it looked certain we would score. Compared to when we defended our line on one of only two or three times in the second half and somehow they got the ball down when there looked to be nothing on. That was very sloppy on our part.
In attack we were very one dimensional, only having two moves. Barge at the line, or sling a long pass from half way which in every case but one either went to ground or was nearly intercepted. Part of this problem though was, as Paul March says due to having five props on the field. We were lacking any speed in the second row, and our centres were poor. Along with this Danny Jones had probably the poorest game I have ever seen him play, being responsible for most of the dropped passes. The move to full back may have worked last week, but yesterday he just seemed to get in the way. When Mossy is back he should be able to move back to Stand-Off, with March at Loose forward which should enable us to get some stability.
There is a long way to go yet and there will be no easy games, but when we get some of our injured players back the results will start to come. Give Marchy a chance, he knows the game much better than JD at this level and has a decent track record in the Championship.
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| My thoughts too. Peter Roe is a Keighley lad through & through.. . im a poet & I knowit... did someone mention management on the field.,, when attacking there try line. 3 yards out why send silly looping passes out to the wing only to be intercepted,, by there winger (penny) lucky for us he finger tipped them 3 times, the only guy on that field with fire in his belly was Buster and they took him off, I asked him on the condition of Daley Williams he said it could be a cracked rib, then someone next to me asked him why he came off, and Buster replied he didn't want to come off, he wanted the full 80 minutes, Ingow lad, March you have to go, no excuses, im sure its his idea of payback time, when he was with Hunslet, Coach ive S%%T Em......( Do one )
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| I really don't think any of us was expecting this result from looking at all the predictions and feel god comments about the game but it's now time to act before its too late. The one problem I feel the directors have is Marchy's contract as I believe it's a 2 year contract but could be wrong just hear say. Depending on whats in his contract like stealth states it will cost us because we would have to pay him out for the remainder of his contract which I think this will be impossible for us as there doesn't seem to be any money about for the club. You can have the best team in the world but if they don't gell, bond or have respect for the coach they are playing for then no matter what he tries he will be fighting a lost cause. For some reason we are not the team that finished last season and this has nothing to do with injuries because I believe that the players we have had in the team are good enough to have won some of the games we have played. The one player I can't wait to have back is Mossy I feel we are missing him.
How long do we leave it because we know from experience how hard it is once you get cemented to the bottom of the table. Looking at our next fixtures coming up I just aren't confident of a win which are leigh at home, fev away, york at home, dewsburry away, barrow at home and hunslet away. Now no disrespect to any one team but normal circumstances I would have been confident we would win 3/4 of these games but not now. I'm not even confident of a bonus point in 3 of these. Then you have to look at the other teams that are all going to be battling around the bottom end of the table which I think will be Barrow, Hunslet, Workington, York, Swinton and us and I wouldn't like to be the team thats battling it out of the bottom 2 spots come the end of the season. The longer these results continue for us the harder its going to be for our lads to have something to grip on to to lift their spirits and confidence because I think we are in for one hell of an hiding against fev and possibly leigh which is going to hurt. I really don't think we have time to wait for players to come back from injury and to be honest I don't think they will make a difference because Marchy just isn't a leader. One thing that is really getting on my nerves and to some your going to think its picky but for me it says a lot and that is if we cast our memory back to when JD was here, everytime we made mistakes, a soft try went in or things wasn't going our way you always saw him wether it was during play or stood behind the sticks pointing, clapping his hands, shouting, hands on his hips, shaking his head and what ever else it took to get the team organised and fired up. When I watch our team now there is not one person especially Marchy that is doing any of this now and this is where the leader is missing. These qualities you can't be taught and you don't just pick them up I think this sort of person is born with these qualities. You are either a leader or a follower and for me Marchy is a follower and will make a good assistant coach.
Unfortunately for me its the end of the road now for Paul March yes he is a nice guy and seems to be a genuine guy too but we can't keep backing him because of this, Coaching is all about results and Paul will know this I'm sure and maybe he might save the directors a job and hold his hands up and say he's in too deep and walk.
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| As I have said, last night was my first league game this season, apart from Fax on Boxing Day. I have seen Micky's video's and whilst I have not viewed all the games, I feel I have a decent take on the game and this can form my basis for critique.
I accept we have Moss, Killer and Rawlings out but in all honesty does that excuse the level of performance? Jones has played at International level for Wales at full back, we have a Super League prop and second row. Emmit for Rollo is a fair swap and some may argue is better than like for like. Emmitt wasn't great last night, but who was?
Putting the absentees to one side, the aspect that have made me support a change was the application on the field. There is no cohesion and whilst injuries will have their say, you have to take the rough with the smooth. The team looks flat and some of the moves are so readable it makes defending them easy. In attack we were woeful.
Some may say this was a bad day at the office, but how many is that now this season?
With the absentees in the team, would this have made any difference? I'm sorry I don't think so. Marchy is unable to get the best out of what he has got and a change is required sooner rather than later.
I'm sorry folks, whilst I accept and applaud those who say give him time, do we really have time to play with? I'm not a fan of knee jerking, but don't like what I am seeing on the pitch.
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| No,time is not on our side at all , I respect everyones views but we do not have time to mess
about , another 4 or 5 games when everyone is back from injury may just be
too late.
I reiterate, the ' league of doom ' is not an option.
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