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| I totally agree with you, it was wrong to renew March's contract mid season, that should have been postponed until the end of the season or at the very least conditional on us making the playoffs.
With regard to the Batley fiasco, I know a lot of supporters are upset with the RL but if we are relugated the main reason will be because we didn't sieze our opportunities, we have lost a lot of games that we should have won and that not the fault of the RL, that's on the team and the coach.
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| I totally agree 'KRLFC' but I believe that it is also the 'Dual Standards' that the RFL appears to apply that has caused so much criticism.
Let's face it; in how many other so-called 'professional sports' do the administrators appear to be so inept?
So how on earth can they enforce any similar Rules in the future?
They have painted themselves into a corner of future actions and potential litigation which, in my opinion, they will be unable to defend themselves against. How can they? They simply cannot have one Rule for Batley and Doncaster and another for other Clubs (including Keighley).
By the way, does anyone know which Clubs cheated previously and what effect it had on their league positions and central funding?
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| haven,York,town are said to be 3 of the 5 clubs who breached the regs last season,in playing DR players in the NRCup and playing players after deadline, we are suppose to have breached it with clough (in league and NR cup) but in both games we got tonked once by you and had no effect on league position,
Town said to have breached it with craven in the league(rumours he was on loan,but played for Widnes during that time so can't have been) and leulaui in the NR cup,not sure about York or two other clubs.
no club should be allow d to gain league position via playing noneligible players,that's why batley should have the game points removed
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| Quote: KRLFC "I totally agree with you, it was wrong to renew March's contract mid season, that should have been postponed until the end of the season or at the very least conditional on us making the playoffs.
With regard to the Batley fiasco, I know a lot of supporters are upset with the RL but if we are relugated the main reason will be because we didn't sieze our opportunities, we have lost a lot of games that we should have won and that not the fault of the RL, that's on the team and the coach.'"
Batley played a player who scored and won them the game when he should NOT have been on the pitch. Do you think we would have got away with it given what happened with March?
I actually think we have done well this season in parts a do not deserve to go down when other teams play players that are not allowed on the pitch!
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| IMO the only route now available to the RFL is to scrap the dual reg. How can it continue now, because any team that breaches in the future will refer to anecdotal evidence of Batley, Doncaster, Haven etc. The only way a player from a SL club or another other league can play for another club should be via transfer or loan. I appreciate the loan has a minimum period (1 month I think) but I just can't see how dual reg can continue.
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| Last year Whitehaven and York did same braech as Batley & Doncasyer this season.
Last year, Whitehaven were already safe from relegation (even if they'd been docked 3 points) and not in play-offs. York already in a relegation place.
So decision on sanctions simply being a caution seems sort of ok - no additional impact on funding either.
This year is totally different with the Batley & Doncaster breaches with the effect on relegation and funding based on finishing position. 3 points deductions seems sort of ok.
But idiot appeals panel blindly follows what happened last year despite completely different circumstances.
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| Quote: Cross Hills Cougar "Last year Whitehaven and York did same braech as Batley & Doncasyer this season.
Last year, Whitehaven were already safe from relegation (even if they'd been docked 3 points) and not in play-offs. York already in a relegation place.
So decision on sanctions simply being a caution seems sort of ok - no additional impact on funding either.
This year is totally different with the Batley & Doncaster breaches with the effect on relegation and funding based on finishing position. 3 points deductions seems sort of ok.
But idiot appeals panel blindly follows what happened last year despite completely different circumstances.'"
3 other clubs also breached it last year, and from the rfl statement even they were not aware of any breach last season until presented as evidence by batley at their appeal,its a mess and DR should be scrapped
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| I think that these comments (copied from the Whitehaven News & Star) say it all about both the RFL and Phil VeiversWhitehaven boss brands RFL a joke after Batley appeal.
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As far as my comment about Phil Veivers is concerned, if anyone disagrees with it I would ask: 'Which Club has benefitted most from Dual Registration (I would suggest Workington with Wigan)
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| Just looking at the league positions after todays match, Batley and Whitehaven are both on 42 points with ourselves on 43, further up the table Fev are on 58, Doncaster 57 and Halifax on 55. Next week Batley play Doncaster (away) and Whitehaven play Swinton (away) and of course we entertain Fev. With Doncaster getting their 3 points back Fev will contest the match big time, they have to win to ensure 2nd place.
Just playin with some figures, let's say Cougars and Swinton both win, I can foresee 3 clubs suing the RL, Fev, Halifax and Whitehaven ... just a thought!
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| I can't see Doncaster doing Batley any favours, can you, especially when there's so much money involved for them (for next season)?
We have to win but, for the life in me, I can't see why we do not appear to be motivated, otherwise (from the reports on today's game) we might have won again. It has always been the problem with Keighley teams over the last 50 years.
Anyway, if we don't win, we must restrict Featherstone to beating us by less than 12 points. Sheffield beat them today and we have beaten Sheffield (away) but we must start well.
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| Going to get battered here but to be fair to Batley n Donny can see what happened and have some sympathy and a thought that we could have been in the same boat....
Both teams like us have minimal full time staff , if it had been Jeremy for us, would despite his 25 years service on little pay been vilified for screwing up , Paul Harrison is in the same boat at Batley....
Holding people to account who have worked for their club for years is pretty poor ,,,,if we want to stay up on on that premise..see u inn CC1 next year ..
The argument should be with those at the RFL and their mates not then clubs who are working their s off to stay within a set of ever changing obscure n frankly convoluted rules that only seem to favor Super League and the clubs in there
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| So, was a 'precedent' set or not?
Not in the case of York or Whitehaven but what about the others?
How did Batley know about the other three Clubs that were guilty of breaching the Rules?
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| Quote: Rach "Going to get battered here but to be fair to Batley n Donny can see what happened and have some sympathy and a thought that we could have been in the same boat....
both teams like us have minimal full time staff , if it had been Jez for us, would despite his 25 years service on little pay vilify him for screwing up , Paul Harrison is in the same boat at Batley....
Holding people to account who have worked for their club for years is poop ,,,,if we want to stay up on on that premise..see u inn CC1 next year ..
The argument should be with those at the RFL and their mates not then clubs who are working their s off to stay within a set of ever changing obscure n frankly convoluted rules that only seem to favor Super Leagun n the clubs in there'"
We can not have rule breaks go unpunished at any level of rugby league IMO. We have to be perfessional at all times and examples hafe to be set. We all know its a honest mistake but its still a rule break. There is no point turning up every week if we do not follow the rules of the game.
In football this was dealt with straight away and the team kick out, in rugby we have 2 meetings and 1 wrong outcome and it takes weeks!!!!
If this happened at Keighley I would not have had a different mindset. No matter which way you look at it both Donny and Batley have cheated and got away with it. Imagine if it had been possible as a result of both clubs getting points back Donny finish 2nd and Batley stay up.
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| Rach is right and it seems the DR rules are so complicated that even now they are not clear. How about if all points scored by DR players in games after the deadline were removed? Red Hall should be red-faced at the way they have bungled this. The phrase 'Not fit for purpose' comes to mind.
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| Quote: HalifaxCougar "Anyone know what the clubs response to this is?'"
Still very quiet - I haven't heard anything at all. I hope the club are busy preparing something with which to hit the RFL should the unthinkable happen next Sunday.
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