We don't sling accusations on this board we "debate" we leave the "slinging" to the York board where hysterical frenzy, lynch mobs and ducking stools still abound. It must be the city walls that have made you all so insular and paranoid.

I think you'll find that Gandalf did indeed fight a Balrog, and whupped it's fiery ass - I know, I've seen the video!

Well seeing as the vid is now in the public rldomainrl.

We can all have a look at it.
It clearly shows that there was no attack from behind.
It clearly shows that the two players were facing each other.

One other thing it shows is it was half a dozen and six of the other.

That would be the response i would expect from you

So please tell me after viewing the vid which bit have i got wrong.

Please feel free to point it out.

What you do have wrong is that Daley firstly pushes Danny in the back Danny turns and retaliates, and as i have already said in real time it does look as though it could be a punch but i can assure you that after slowing it down and breaking it down into 160 frames it clearly shows that Danny has used the flat of his hands into Daley's chest and just a split second before Daley throws a punch at his head, if it was as you say six of one and half a dozen of the other then why on earth would Daley throw the second punch when Danny was heading to the floor, the RFL have the same technology which as been used to break it down into frames so we will have to wait for the outcome from tonight, as for Barry Eaton's remark in the Press, think it could be wishful thinking on his behalf.

Your whole argument rest on one frame that you have frozen in time.

Are you trying to tell me that you know exactly that Daley know it was a flat hand hitting him?
Even you say it was a spilt second before Daley throws the punch.

You have to look at the whole thing not just one frozen frame.

Think it would be a shame if Ratcliffe did feel the need for legal action. Im not condoning what happened. But imagin what the game would become if every player who suffered a broken nose, jaw etc, after a fight on the pitch, took legal action against the player who did it. Its a very physical game & some times it boils over (like it did here). The RFL will take what action they see fit (which as its not super league will probably be a ban).

But as for getting the police involved is going abit over the top. If it was the other way round I doubt Williams would have thought about police involvment.

Remember when Stuart Fielden got punched by Willie Mason, Fielden just said its a very physical game and it happens.

Its probably happened before and will probably happen again.

Theres a saying rugby league, what happens on the field, stays on the field.

Believe me guess who i have watched and watched again, i have no axe to grind with Daley the fact is that it was an act of stupidity at the time, if injuries occur during the course of the game then whilst it is unfortunate it as to be accepted as part of the game, but you have got to admit our game is hard enough without such acts and yes i can see your point but it still doesn't retract from the point i was trying to make, god forbid it ever happens on a rugby field but we have all read reports of people being killed with just one punch, i appreciate that may sound a bit dramatic but it has happened and no doubt will happen again

The report says controversally, the Ref put the incident on report but took no further action.

Well if they didnt see anything at the time, all they can do it put it on report.

One other thing. Isn't time to end this stupid argument?. The game is over, move on.
The RFL will do what they need to do. York fans start to focus on Oldham. Cougar Fans start looking forward to the Grand Final.

When RL is played at 1/24 of a second slow motion then the Video referee and events which are being discussed may have merit.

However, thankfully, the game isn't but sadly the Video ref still exists and now it's trial by slow motion.

Life is NOT slow motion it moves on a quite a pace.

If this kind of action is taken further the the entire game will need reviewing at the same speed so that ALL the offences ( and there will be many) can be seen and dealt with fairly.

Totally impractical I would suggest.

What happens when the cameras are not there or it is an amateur game?

Have just had a look at the footage.

It's of quite poor quality but I will concede that Daley put the first shove in but who knows what or if anything was said beforehand.

Certainly clear that Daley threw a left hook but we all knew that anyway. I could honestly not see a second punch thrown due to the quality of the footage.

To be honest I think he deserves maybe a 1 or 2 game ban.

I certainly don't think the police would prosecute on that evidence. Righly they're more concerned with catching rapists, murderers, paedophiles, and drug dealers than sorting out a fracas at a Rugby League match.

Likewise i have no axe to grind with your player.
The way i see it is, it is a hard game and yes we all hope no player gets hurt.
But Daley is not a dirty player. Non of us know what had lead up to this. Only the two players will be able to tell us.

Yes we do hear of people being killed with one punch. The thing is you are never going to stop it happening on the field.

Maybe if the ref had got a better grip of the game it may not have happened.