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Quote: Dreamer "Your defence [i]was[/i] good.

By spoiling I mean laying on, flopping, slow release of the ball carrier, messing around at the play the ball, facials.

All open to interpretation, but should have been controlled by the ref.

You did what you were allowed to get away with.'"
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It was controlled by the ref, he penalised what he thought we did wrong, as he penalised what he thought you did wrong. Not many penalties for facials, slowly releasing the ball-carrier, flopping or messing. I think both teams were equally guilty, or not, as each other.

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Quote: Jim Bergerac "
Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'.'"


That is done by a Keighley fan. Its aimed at Keighley fans.

It is not done by the club.

What the hell did you expect?

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Quote: guess who "That is done by a Keighley fan. Its aimed at Keighley fans.

It is not done by the club.

What the hell did you expect?'"


Obviously. However, I really don't see the need to include every single penalty conceded by the opposition. Pathetic.

Quote: guess who "if I did my job has bad has the officials did yesterday i whould not only get the sack but i whould never get a job again it was the worst display of reffing i have ever seen and thats bad i watch alot of rugby.hope they learn from it because if they dont its going to be a long season . on that display i meant go to red hall for a job cant do no worse if they get to do it'"


Really. The worst displaying of refereeing you've ever seen. Boo hoo, dry your eyes. All I can say is that you can't have been watching the game long.

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Quote: Jim Bergerac "Obviously. However, I really don't see the need to include every single penalty conceded by the opposition. Pathetic.'"


Its not aimed at Batley fans. No one made you watch it did they.

As for it being pathetic, behave yourself.

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Quote: guess who "Its not aimed at Batley fans. No one made you watch it did they.

As for it being pathetic, behave yourself.'"


To have such a blinkered view of a game that you feel compelled to include every single penalty/incident in which you feel so badly, horribly done by - whilst totally ignoring any indiscretions/possible indiscretions from your own side, IS pathetic. Its a bit like sitting down to watch a movie with some friends and then hogging the remote control to fast forward through all the bits that you, personally, don't like.

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I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right! Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness. Anon.:simpsons/simp048.gif



Quote: Jim Bergerac "Some of these comments on 'spoiling tactics' and 'dirty play' are reminiscent of remarks made by Cougars fans in the mid-90's when our team of free transfers used to beat your expensive big names at both Cougar Park and Mount Pleasant. Come on, at least wait until your side are at the top end of the league before starting with this tripe. As for the 'turned from a free flowing side into a bunch of spoilers' rubbish, did you ever watch us under Harrison???!!! We played some of the most negative, unattractive rugby I've ever seen at Batley during that period. Although it was successful, and is what makes Harrison a good coach, we were massively boring to watch at times.
Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'. Some of your fans seem to have what I like to call 'St.Helens syndrome', screaming vehemently for an offence every other second. At one stage I heard cries for 'offside', 'high tackle' and 'holding down' all within a single play.'"



Oh that's so precious! icon_lol.gif

You should come on here more often and give us all a good laugh icon_wink.gif

I could understand your attitude if i had come on your site trolling, but really, if you don't want to hear opinions you don't like then maybe you should just sit in a corner staring at the wall. icon_wink.gif

For what its worth, I have every respect for the slow but steady progress that Batley have made over recent years, they have set a good example to many. I am more than happy to applaud good play from the opposition and I did applaud your final tries, however much they hurt. Having said that, I still maintain that your SPOILING tactics were a poor example of rugby. curtain.gif

If you want to have a hissy fit over other peoples opinions, that's your problem. Have a nice day now curtain.gif

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My view of yesterdays game is that for the majority the cougars were the better side and can count themselves unlucky not to come away with the victory. But the comments above about spoiling tactics and the standard of refereeing way are off the mark. I understand we all tend to lean in favour of our own side as im sure i myself am guilty, but you have to keep some kind of perspective. The reason keighley lost the game yesterday was there lack of fitness and lack of hunger. Batley although playing nowhere near to their full potential, played for the full 80 minutes as opposed to keighley who seemed to switch off after 65. Talk of laying on in the tackle and to quote an above post "the worst display of reffing i have ever seen" smacks of sour grapes and detracts from what was for 3/4 of the game a strong keighley performance.

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Quote: G Smith "Talk of laying on in the tackle and to quote an above post "the worst display of reffing i have ever seen" smacks of sour grapes and detracts from what was for 3/4 of the game a strong keighley performance.'"


You have no idea of the person posting that comment.
How many games they have seen. Or the standard of reffing at said games.
That persons opinion, it may well have been the worse reffing they have ever seen.
For you or anyone else to read that, that is sour grapes is the strange thing.

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Quote: G Smith " But the comments above about spoiling tactics and the standard of refereeing way are off the mark. '"


At the end of the day, that's only your opinion.

Quote: G Smith "I understand we all tend to lean in favour of our own side as im sure i myself am guilty, but you have to keep some kind of perspective. The reason keighley lost the game yesterday was there lack of fitness and lack of hunger. Batley although playing nowhere near to their full potential, played for the full 80 minutes as opposed to keighley who seemed to switch off after 65. '"


I'd generally agree with that.

Quote: G Smith "Talk of laying on in the tackle ......... smacks of sour grapes and detracts from what was for 3/4 of the game a strong keighley performance.'"


Can't see why it should "[ismack of sour grapes[/i", It's an opinion. If Keighley fans had come on your site and others, making unreasonable claims then you might have a point, but we have not.



Anyway, at the risk of being [ia very naughty boy[/i I'll say it again, for a big portion of the game Batley played SPOILING tactics. (it must be good for at least half a dozen more bites) curtain.gif

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Quote: G Smith " "the worst display of reffing i have ever seen" smacks of sour grapes and detracts from what was for 3/4 of the game a strong keighley performance.'"
No it is not sour grapes it is a comment I made after watching his comedy of continuous errors. In my opinion it was these errors such as several missed knock ons etc that kept Batley in the game and as for allowing that first try, when he was there to see it,, that beggared belief.

See it in this vid and tell me that was a try. I think not.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=--DZazcBYyA


One point of note from the vid at about the 1.20 point is the Batley number 3 flying through the gap in the railing and sign boarding. He did very well to not end up injured.
Quote: G Smith " "the worst display of reffing i have ever seen" smacks of sour grapes and detracts from what was for 3/4 of the game a strong keighley performance.'"
No it is not sour grapes it is a comment I made after watching his comedy of continuous errors. In my opinion it was these errors such as several missed knock ons etc that kept Batley in the game and as for allowing that first try, when he was there to see it,, that beggared belief.

See it in this vid and tell me that was a try. I think not.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=--DZazcBYyA


One point of note from the vid at about the 1.20 point is the Batley number 3 flying through the gap in the railing and sign boarding. He did very well to not end up injured.


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I personally am gutted that we lost a close and entertaining match. The team slowed down and needed to stick at it the 80 minutes. That said I thought Batley played a rougher game than us but they kept getting away with it... still not nice to watch. They got away with a lot I thought: several forward passes and were miles offside on a few occasions. I have just watched the video and it confirmed a few incidents I couldn't quite call from where I stood.

I thought the ref was poor and seemed to make some inconsistent decisions... like we apparently played the ball wrong once (Duffy I think) then Batley did the same thing twice unpunished. Unfortunately I have seen worse performances by referees.

Nevermind, I hope we improve again for Toulouse.

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Quote: Jim Bergerac "
Oh, and finally, thanks for the heavily-edited match highlights on Youtube - a real 'video nasty'. .'"


Mike, as a supporter takes his own time to film and edit games from a supporters perspective ..and as such should be applauded for the time and effort he puts into his 'You Tube ' Channel .
I'm sure a Batley perspective on the video front would be welcomed .....

Personally Jim I think you do the Bulldogs faithful a dis- service slagging off Mike and his contribution to the Cougar effort .

I have always had a massive amount of time for Batley, the club and its supporters , who have always personified the goal of success through limited resources , an aim that you have achieved[i (and some )[/i and I maybe naively thought that you would have supported a fan doing his utmost for his team as Mike is doing

I'm somewhat disgruntled because I'm surehis coverage of our games are something that fits squarely within that ethos that you represent and to see it slated so readily is disappointing from a set of supporters I held in high regard until now..

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Quote: Rach "Mike, as a supporter takes his own time to film and edit games from a supporters perspective ..and as such should be applauded for the time and effort he puts into his 'You Tube ' Channel .
I'm sure a Batley perspective on the video front would be welcomed .....

Personally Jim I think you do the Bulldogs faithful a dis- service slagging off Mike and his contribution to the Cougar effort .

I have always had a massive amount of time for Batley, the club and its supporters , who have always personified the goal of achievement through limited resources , an aim that you have achieved[i] (and some )[/i] and I maybe naively thought that you would have supported a fan doing his utmost for his team as Mike is doing

I'm somewhat disgruntled because I'm surehis coverage of our games are something that fits squarely within that ethos that you represent and to see it slated so readily is disappointing from a set of supporters I held in high regard until now..'"
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Rach, to quote one of your supporters


Two of us have mentioned we saw things we were not happy with. Thats not really a case of all Keighley supporters is it.

Don't judge us all by the comments of one. The discussions today have all been typical fayre for after a match. After next weekends match, all this will be forgotten and we can all get back to appreciating both clubs and their supporters. From my perspective, I think some of your supporters have made accusations that seem fairly extreme, but we move on!

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One thing was apparent from watching the video.

How on earth was that guy "fit" to referee a professional game of rugby league?

Look at the size of that gut it's even bigger than mine!

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Quote: distantdog "Rach, to quote one of your supporters


Two of us have mentioned we saw things we were not happy with. Thats not really a case of all Keighley supporters is it.

Don't judge us all by the comments of one. The discussions today have all been typical fayre for after a match. After next weekends match, all this will be forgotten and we can all get back to appreciating both clubs and their supporters. From my perspective, I think some of your supporters have made accusations that seem fairly extreme, but we move on!'"


Fair play and can take all that on board ......but my comments were not guided by anything that happened on the field ...

As I have said before Mike's efforts are all his own for his club , if we went and publicly slated the efforts of those from BISSA and your fans who work tirelessly for the Batley Club without numeration or recognition , as 'Jimbergerac; has done on here , I would expect the same reaction from yourself ...

The Comments of One can taint a whole club and your post-er should remember that ...

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